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PhD viva passed - some advice to return.
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Congratulations! Best wishes!
Any Post-Doc plans?

Why does my supervisor ask the other student, rather than me, to make a poster?
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You should have asked your Supervisor from Day 1, what the implications of having Sam were. Always always protect your data from third parties, by asking in writing, detailed explanations for anything. But it's not too late. Ask Sam what kind of working does he foresee so you read the mind of your Supervisor. I would still schedule an appointment with the said Supervisor and discuss this!

BOOK CHAPTER OR JOURNAL ARTICLE
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Very insightful.

I was really considering the Book Chapters, for the CV. Mainly coz paper is just a review.

However, I am having second thoughts. Not sure How to proceed. But the Editors are highly qualified in the area, and have given great feedback on the draft outline.

Kind of confused!!




Quote From eng77:
Be ware of publishers who are not doing anything except trying to get material for free. They talk to you as you are getting the benefit while actually they take your work for free and sell it for a price.
Now, what matters to you is your own benefit. I think the call for a book chapter night have been made to many authors. It might not be a real call. If you submit to a decent journal and got accepted, this is definitely something. I agree that journals also do the same (take your work for free and sometimes you even pay) and sell it for a price. But this is another story. Long story short, I would go for the journal.

BOOK CHAPTER OR JOURNAL ARTICLE
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Thanks a million. Indeed good advice.

The paper is like a review. Firstly using existing data and then uses literature in that data context.

Almost like a review! Indeed Book Chapters are hard to find in my field too, so wanted to take this opportunity and see what it does for me!

Got really good feedback from the editors, So I am caught in between๐Ÿค”. Editors are highly competent in the field!




Quote From eng77:
Be ware of publishers who are not doing anything except trying to get material for free. They talk to you as you are getting the benefit while actually they take your work for free and sell it for a price.
Now, what matters to you is your own benefit. I think the call for a book chapter night have been made to many authors. It might not be a real call. If you submit to a decent journal and got accepted, this is definitely something. I agree that journals also do the same (take your work for free and sometimes you even pay) and sell it for a price. But this is another story. Long story short, I would go for the journal.

BOOK CHAPTER OR JOURNAL ARTICLE
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A paper of mine got accepted at a conference but could not travel cause of funding.

I then found out a call for Book Chapters, the editors are people of good standing.

There is an opportunity to publish there.

What is better a book chapter or a journal article?

* Publication in the book Chapter is free๐Ÿ˜‹

What has more value at Ph.D level?

Acknowledgements when your supervisors were awful
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It's the end, but not yet over. You still need them for the defense, and other examation related issues.

"I am grateful to my Supervisors X, XX, XXX for their guidance over the three years.

Then go on to others!

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Thank you, that is really helpful! Might go with Nesrine87's suggestion.

Although that will piss them off - there are some very fragile egos at work, they're looking for a lot of praise. Which is why do not want to lie too much - sup2 has another PhD student right now and is starting to treat him the same way she did with me ("because it worked"). I don't want to reinforce her delusions, otherwise I would just praise them to the moon and back and move on.

Which I might still do in order to avoid any negative consequences but I thought it worth asking if someone more polite than me might have a suggestion ;)

Just discovered work that I thought was original has already been done before
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This is ok...reach out to those authors and share your passion for what you want to do and then ask them how to tweak the work in an interesting angle, you will be amazed!



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I was preparing for my first year progression review and was trying to find a paper I had seen for my literature review. In looking I stumbled across a term that I had not checked before in my literature searches which lead me to a significant number of sources who had done roughly what I had done and had thought had been unique. What do I do and how do I tell my supervisor? My review is in a week. I had always maintained in meetings that I had been unable to find sources doing what I had done but that I wasn't 100% sure that I had not missed something.

Relationship with supervisors unworkable months from finishing
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It is well God is on your side.
If you believe in Prayer, please lay everything before him who has the final say, he will make everyman a liar!

His only plans are to prosper you and to give you an expected end, Soilder On!

You will finish strong!



Quote From Kelpie1:
To everyone - all of your comments are helpful!
I guess one of the things unique to this position as a PhD student is the solitude, so just having people relate to what you are going through , or sharing their stories give you a healthier perspective.
One of the things my husband told was - "think of the worst thing that can happen (not get a PhD). Now imagine it. It's not so bad is it? the worst possible scenario is disappointing - but not an all consuming disaster!". And I gave to agree. Almost everyone I know deals with some type of crap or failures in their lives.

With regards to complaints - at this moment I am giving my supervisors the benefit of doubt, but I did fully involve my committee. I thing that (at least two of them) are genuinely non-malicious (the third guy - only god knows, as he keeps fighting with everyone else) - but because this type of horrendous behaviour that does verge on bullying is sort of "encouraged" - they feel free, and even obliged, to act like this. And my main supervisor, instead of making it very clear to them that "this is NOT OK" , keeps laying the blame back on me. They also have some social issues - the perks of doing a PhD in engineering.

All in all I think getting some support and understanding from peers goes a long way. After 6 years in paid work, with crappy bosses and annoying colleagues - i have to say the PhD experience is a lot more challenging, and not necessarily for the "right" reasons.

Relationship with supervisors unworkable months from finishing
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You are a tru CHAMPION!

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I liked this very much! I will reply in detail to the PM. Been long without touching base. But have some news!

Quote From tru:
Persevere on. Finish the bloody thing and move on. It will be one of your best life's accomplishment. Imagine motivating your child one day "Mummy overcame bad people with you in my tummy. So mummy is strong. And you will be too"

Bad relationships with supervisor will not affect you especially if you pursue a career in non academia. So no worries there. I never used any of my supervisors in any of my job applications and I got them. Supervisor referral is so overrated.

Trust me. It gets better when you cross the finishing line. I had super bad supervisors (big bully, negligent) and academic life was horrendous. I dragged myself across the finishing line with my family and friends cheering me on. I had depression and still can't touch my thesis without palpitations. I absolutely enjoyed my convocation without inviting my supervisors and got my friend the special seat on the stage (meant for supervisors) while other students from adjacent labs looked puzzled at this bizarre arrangement. Oh the satisfaction!

Chin up and march on. If I can do it, so can you!

Passed my PhD with no corrections - Choose your supervisor wisely!
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Hearty congrats!
Hmmm you had a supporting team, this is excellent!

Achieved my goal even with the lack of supervisors
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WELL DONE Zena85!

Very inspiring work, keep it up!

How did you make sure the chapters were concrete?





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Hello
I had a really toxic supervisors. The first one expressed his interest in publishing my research in his own name and gave the option by either getting my PhD or by getting a publication. There was a third option he forgot, I went to the the student coordinator and told him the story. Unfortunately this happened 6 months before my contract finishes for my PhD. He didnโ€™t let me publish any of my research. The only time I went to a conference is by submitting the abstract without telling him. The only way I received a feedback from reviewers is by submitting the paper to a journal without telling him. He does not give me feedback or support after the first year. The second supervisor has no clue about my research at all. So I told the coordinator everything and of course he didnโ€™t believe me but of course there is a chance I was telling the truth and the only way to fix the situation is by making the HoD involved. Of course the HoD is a dear friend with my supervisors and he did not believe anything I was telling him. I told him I want to submit my thesis this October and to have my viva in December. I finished five chapters and I am working on the last chapter. I was begging my supervisors to give me feedback but they donโ€™t, i was begging them to have a meeting but they refuse so I donโ€™t see the point of having supervisors at all. So he said I will be your supervisor so in this case I will avoid any further problems and make sure to receive feedback on the thesis. I got two feedback and it was mainly English and formatting (like heading number or figure caption) nothing technical at all. They told me I should apply for another six months to make the thesis more suitable, I said no we already agreed on the date. The HoD said I might end up with resubmission as the thesis as it is not good. I asked him is there anything wrong with the work he said no just the writing, I told him you had three months and you provided me with two feedback and it was only English and formatting so why I should end up with resubmission?so I submitted and got minor corrections. I filed a complaint against my supervisors as they were bad supervisors but the university did not do anything. The HoD Of course banned me from using the computer lab and from getting the master materials even though other students have the material. But I did not care, I submitted my final thesis today and proved them they are wrong.
My advice, do your work and believe in yourself, submit papers to journal as the reviewers feedback helps a lot like they helped me more than my supervisors, and all the best to all of you who is suffering from bad supervisors

Conference... my results have now changed...
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Nothing to worry about. A CONFERENCE paper is usually based on preliminary results and further analysis or concrete analysis can change the direction. Your collaborator will be excited that you found out another interesting aspect and you can now consider the conference input
At least if I was the collaborator๐Ÿคฃ

Sharing my viva experience
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Congratulations Dr. Walkerfree, ๐ŸŽ‚๐ŸŽ‚
You are a free man now๐Ÿ’ƒ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ‘

But I want to know, how you chose your conceptual framework, any tips?

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Thank you so much for sharing these tips. Bests in your work and I hope you can develop your work while at work, publishing the little you have. Add some more tips when you have time.

I am interested to know though, what kind of confrontation do you sense was important with your supervisor? This might help also to know

Conference abstract - different results/changes
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