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Thread: New research questions

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21-Mar-17, 14:30
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I don't really know! I think I'll have to muddle along for a while and then go back and for between possible research questions and what comes out of the writing. This is a strange way of writing, though!

Thread: New research questions

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19-Mar-17, 09:46
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Hi all!

So for my revise and resubmit, I must rewrite the whole thesis in accordance with an outline the external examiner has given me. I was told that I would have to 'adjust' my research questions, but I'm not sure how to do this. It's a situation where I have to write before I can really figure out what she wants, but I need to have some sort of research questions around which to centre my writing.

So I've got three chapters (out of six) 'finished' that follow the outline of the examiner, and they need to be adjusted to centre around research questions. But how do I figure that out?

I'm getting really frustrated again!

Tenzin

Thread: Examiner Disagreement

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09-Mar-17, 18:01
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Congratulations Faded! Your story is an inspiration! Best wishes to you!

Thread: Corrections motivation

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02-Mar-17, 13:22
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Or . . . to put things in perspective: You have only one chapter to rewrite and you also have a pass.

I'm not whining too much about this anymore, however, I was 'awarded' a revise and resubmit. I have eight chapters to rewrite and have no idea if I'll pass once I resubmit.

I would gladly be in your position, although I can completely understand how you are feeling.

Little bits at a time! This is great advice, and one that is helping me a lot when I start to feel overwhelmed or undermotivated.

You absolutely can do this, Grumpy Mule! Just go for it!

Thread: First rewritten chapter a disaster

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12-Jan-17, 01:11
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posted about 3 months ago
Thanks everyone for your feedback.

I think probably the first step is to talk to the supervisors again about this, and bring up the issues you have all mentioned. I'm incredibly burnt out right now, living in Nepal and getting ready to start a new job here.

I'm going to take a few days to think about it all first.

Thread: First rewritten chapter a disaster

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11-Jan-17, 12:21
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Hi all,

I got my referral to resubmit after my viva in early October. Once I got the examiner's list, it became apparent that I have to rewrite the entire PhD - some of the original material can be integrated, but much of it (about 60 per cent) has to be thrown out. My methodology was the biggest problem.

So my supervisors and I decided that to begin on the methodology chapter would be the best strategy. Immediately after receiving the examiner report, I started working on the chapter. I don't know if I've even worked that hard on the original thesis, and when it was finally finished almost three months later, I turned it in to my supervisors.

I just got their feedback today - the chapter was a disaster. From the comments from my supervisors, it's obvious that I just don't know how to argue my point. And I'm thinking, well, if I don't get it by now, I'll never get it.

Throughout this whole process (the viva, decision to resubmit, etc.) I've been miserably unhappy. I won't find any positions in academia due to my age (53) and the almost complete lack of academic positions in my area (religious studies). I'm only hoping to complete this PhD because I started it.

Today, however, I was really devastated. Sometimes I wonder if it's better just to let it go - this is expensive, draining, and it seems pretty pointless now.

So I'm looking for feedback, advice, insights - please no chastising - I'm at the end of my tether today.

Tenzin

Thread: Academic/lecturing prospects in the humanities - UK

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07-Nov-16, 00:44
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Hi Cole,

I am also in the 'upper age' bracket for PhD students - I started mine when I was 46. I'm also in the humanities - religious studies. I was told very bluntly on several occasions at the 2015 AAR conference that I was 'too old' for the academic job market - so in addition to the lack of available academic positions, my age would be a great deterrent to finding a job.

So I think this is something to really think about - I'm now processing a referral, and the prospects of finding work in my field after re-submission, should I pass, are very slim. I'm also in education, so I will most likely return to my previous career as a language instructor.

I love my thesis subject, too, however, with the above givens, had I known four years back what I know now, I would have not pursued this avenue. It's been both rewarding and difficult, but the 'expense' of this experience is now far outweighing the 'returns'.

This is not meant to be overly negative, just an account of my personal experience. There are surely people that have had more positive experiences than me.

Tenzin

Thread: RR corrections list

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01-Nov-16, 20:51
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Hi all,

Well - I got the list of corrections from the examiners for the referral. It's pretty clear and very detailed, including a suggested outline to use for the thesis itself. In fact, it seems I have to rewrite all of the chapters of the thesis. It seems like a monumental task and I'm feeling extremely discouraged.

Any of you who have gone through this process - were your corrections this extensive?

I'm feeling completely overwhelmed right now.

Tenzin

Thread: Issues with my referral

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20-Oct-16, 13:58
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posted about 6 months ago
Thanks everyone for your thoughts - I'm always curious about different perspectives, so your answers have been very informative.

I really don't want the drama of an appeal, and I'm ready to make the corrections as indicated. I think the only time I'd seriously consider appealing is if I continued to follow directives, and failed. And by then I think I'd be too tired of it all to do anything about it anyway!

Keep correcting and carry on! :)

Thread: 1st semester PhD student-terrible feedback on my first draft of ethics approval forms

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19-Oct-16, 22:22
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I had the same thing happen to me - don't panic! Just make the corrections as indicated. After my second submission, all was well.

This has nothing to do with your competency as a PhD student!

Tenzin

Thread: Issues with my referral

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19-Oct-16, 15:22
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Hi everyone - me again!

Now that the initial sting of receiving a referral at my recent Viva has somewhat worn off, I've given the situation some more thought. I don't know if I want to appeal the decision for a referral and continue with the revisions, however the following issues with the process have come to mind:

1. How can two supervisors sign off on my thesis as an excellent piece of work and ready to submit, and then both an external and internal examiner deem the thesis insufficient for a PhD?

2. The internal examiner was approved of by the supervisors as the best choice out of the department, because he has research expertise in a related area but no familiarity with my subject area; however, how can he agree with the conclusions of the external examiner, who is an expert in my field of research, if he is not an expert in my field of research? (He informed me of his agreement).

3. How is it that I am to rely only on the advice of my supervisors in regards to further corrections as assigned by the examiners, if the supervisors have deemed themselves too subjective to be able to judge the quality of my work (this is what I was told by my primary supervisor)?

4. Finally, my primary supervisor is the Department Head. The internal examiner was appointed the Postgraduate Research Tutor after he had agreed to be the internal examiner. The former Postgraduate Research Tutor was appointed the Director of Postgraduate Research, who has now become my point of contact instead of the Postgraduate Research Tutor because of the conflict in interest; however, the Director of Postgraduate Research is a very close friend of my primary supervisor, i.e. the Department Head. So I feel that there is some conflict of interest, so I don't know who to turn to in the department for unbiased advice or even a sounding board.

These administrative changes in the department were very recent, and will last for at least another two years. Thus, should I decide to continue with the resubmission, and should I disagree with the final decision of a resubmitted thesis (downgrade to MPhil or worse, a fail), I think it would be even more difficult to appeal an already complex situation.

Any thoughts?

Tenzin

Thread: Viva and referral statistics

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18-Oct-16, 00:49
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Hello all!

I recently posted on the forum that I was given a referral at my recent Viva. Since then, I've been searching for statistics on this result in the UK - how many candidates are referred (neither pass nor fail, but major revisons and resubmit), and of those that resubmit, how many pass? I've not found very much information at all, other than a general 7 per cent are referred, and of those, 80 per cent of referrals go on to pass.

Does anyone else have any information, or a source?

Thanks,
Tenzin

Thread: PhD referral

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11-Oct-16, 16:29
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Hi everyone again!

Thanks very much for the advice and kind words - I think what is so utterly confusing about this is the great sign off on the thesis I got from my supervisors before I had submitted.

So, yes, I will wait to see what report says. I have a meeting lined up with the internal examiner to 'informally' take a look at the corrections list that will have been sent to the administration for approval. In the meantime, I've gotten informed about the whole process, prospects of failing completely the second time around, my rights as a student (not many apparently!), etc.

I'm also taking a break now to settle down more emotionally.

I'll post again in a couple of weeks - hopefully my experience can benefit someone else in a similar situation!

Tenzin

Thread: PhD referral

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08-Oct-16, 08:22
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Hello,

I just had my Viva yesterday, and was quite shocked to have been given a referral. At this university a student is given 18 months to resubmit. My supervisors who have been pretty supportive throughout the whole process, were also completely surprised.

As with most PhD students at the end of the proverbial road of the PhD journey, I'm exhausted, burnt out, drained and now very frustrated. Although I haven't received the report yet from the internal examiner as to what needs to be adjusted, I'm not sure if I want to continue any further. There is a possibility upon resubmission that I would have to do another Viva, and this would be the last chance. Anything else is either a fail or an MPhil.

Nothing positive was said about the work during the Viva, other than "It's an interesting topic". The external examiner did tell me, though, that she would be happy to answer any of my questions along the way to rewriting parts of certain chapters. I think I will be required to do further research as well.

So this could be an opportunity to either learn a lot more, or set myself up for another huge disappointment. Sometimes I think there are signposts in life that say "Go a different direction", and I think this is one of those moments.

I'd so much appreciate anyone's input or insights.

TK
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