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Final year support thread
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Man I would really struggle with a 70k limit!

After writing my conclusion I think editing my literature review will be the first point of call which I am dreading :/ It is so difficult as I think there is always that fear of the examiners asking 'Why have you not included...?'

Final year support thread
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There has always been a rumor in my department that if the thesis is over 80k (very max is 110k) that the examiners will get annoyed and you will get major corrections. I asked a few academics in my department about this and they confirmed it is just a silly rumor- what I was advised was that a longer thesis only gets frustrating when information is repeated and when it lacks coherence. I think the key is then being able to justify all of your content.

Hugh- my LR is in two chapters; one is about 11k and the other is 14k, but I am hoping to cut the 14k one down a little as there are a couple of 'rambly' sections!

Final year support thread
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My current chapter is 20k :o my two previous findings/discussion chapters are also 20k and 15k. My supervisor hasn't had any major issues with the length of these chapters though, and reassured me to not worry abut word counts until later.

I will need to do some serious chopping of my thesis when it is complete though. I have budgeted about 7k for conclusions, but even then it takes me 10k over the very maximum word limit. I have ideas of where I can cut from- one being my two part literature review as one part of this is 15k. I had a skim over it the other day and a lot of it is no longer that relevant and can easily be made more coherent and concise.

I think (personally) it is more important to see how it 'flows'. If those longer chapters would no longer make sense divided into two, it is probably best to keep it as one.

Final year support thread
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Quote From chickpea:
Everyone sounds very industrious!

I'm working on my biggest chapter, writing and analysing in tandem. I gave myself an extra month for this one, so hoping to have it drafted by the end of the month. I'm also still trying to do the dregs of data collection/recruitment for another chapter *bangs head off desk* Recruitment will just never finish, will it? I'll still be recruiting when I'm five years into working at Tesco!


Chickpea- we won't be working at Tesco...surely PhD graduates work at Waitrose? ;) I joke, I joke!

Recruitment and data collection will end, I promise! I know the feeling though, as mine began in April 2014 and ended in January this year- I felt the same at the time! It is good that you have given yourself some extra time. The chapter I am finishing up turned out to be a long one and it took me over my own deadline for it. I have found it the toughest one since it is the last findings chapter and it felt like my 'last chance' to squeeze everything I wanted to be in the thesis into it. How long will your big chapter be? Hang in there :)

Appropriate Theoretical Framework, Social Capital Theory?
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It does sound suitable in the context of your research. I would though spend some time looking slightly outside of Bourdieu's notion of social capital as scholars have developed social capital further to foster different definitions, e.g. Putnam (2000), bridging and bonding social capital.

Final year support thread
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Guys, I feel the same way about being eager to finish. It has been a beautiful day but I have literally sat at my desk all day marking before working on my thesis.

I am currently editing the chapter on paper before applying the amendments. I am hoping to send it off tomorrow! myoldmonkey- I plan to give myself a week off of the thesis once this chapter is in to focus on the paper and marking. I also want a break from looking at it before I tackle the conclusion! How are the summaries going?

So this week, I hope to have sent this chapter off to my sup, make some headway on the paper I am writing and get through my marking pile. I should also try to spend a day on some major revisions I got from a journal but I keep putting that off. What are you up to Chickpea?

Final year support thread
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In a few days! I went over my initial deadline of the end of April due to illness :(

Good luck with polishing; I plan to do that tomorrow and Monday. Today I have been dragged away from it as I am writing a paper for publication which I am chipping away at for the rest of the month.

The summary approach sounds really sensible along with setting word counts. I plan to also submit in October too as this gives me plenty of time (I hope) to go back and edit. I also need to cut about 10k out of my thesis. I have some ideas where I can cut down content though. I also think I will rewrite a couple of earlier chapters as now the findings are almost complete, some areas I have waffled on about are no longer relevant, whereas other things that I did not include are VERY relevant. This is the part I am dreading the most!

Final year support thread
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Quote From myoldmonkey:
Aw cheers Zutterfly! I feel like the whole thing for me has been one long exercise in emotional management! I waited for so long to become "ready" to get things done, and now I'm finally handing in those crappy first drafts- it sometimes feels like failing, but perhaps thats the only way to get things done. I am willing to believe in the miraculous power of editing ;)
How's everyone's week been?


We need the 'crappy drafts' to get anywhere near the finish line I think! I have recently been looking back upon chapters I wrote last year and realising that they need LOTS of editing. Some of them don't even make sense!

My week has been ok, I am close to finishing my final findings chapter to send to my supervisor, but I have had to shove it to one side as I agreed to do some undergraduate marking. I am working over the weekend to try and get closer to my own deadlines before I look at the marking pile. How about you? When is your deadline? (and I am asking this in as least pressured way as possible!)

Final year support thread
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Quote From myoldmonkey:
Hi folks, my first post! Somehow got to the final year of this thing, and looking forward to some support -- and giving some of my own -- for the last leg of the journey! :D


Welcome myoldmonkey! How is the final year treating you so far?

Post PhD life
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Quote From chickpea:
Dunham, you are attributing everything to personal choice, when in fact most people want to do things like have a family life, a decent place to live and a sense of community. It is not unreasonable to want those things as well as a job. If an entire employment sector dictates that you need to give up those things, then I say an unduly narrow field of applicants is the result. I don't think that is healthy for academia or the people who stay in it.


I agree with Chickpea here. Also, just to add my own experience to this Dunham, as an undergraduate I actually was under the impression that you could remain in one place or commute to nearby cities since all of my tutors at undergrad level either lived locally or in nearby cities where they had also gained their PhDs.

Lecturer I teach with always moaning he's busy and putting me down
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Chances are if you have had this experience with him, other staff members will have had it too. His complaining about how 'busy' he is is his problem, not yours. There seems to be a bizarre culture in modern times of trying to win some sort of imaginary competition of 'busyness'.

Is this a permanent position or temp? If it is temp at least it won't be forever. Since he doesn't seem to be the type to listen, maybe just ignore, completely, anything he says about how 'busy' he is - completely pretend you did not hear it and change the subject. This will possibly make him feel a bit embarrassed as it will send a clear message that you do not care for his moaning.

Post PhD life
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I'm with Treeoflife, Chickpea and Hugh on this. I am close to completion but I am starting to sway more towards something outside of academia but based in a university e.g. professional services. I really don't want to be moving every year or two and coping with the stress of temporary contracts. However, ideally I would like to obtain a research/teaching job for the first couple of years after graduation but then move to something outside of academia and permanent after. By that time I would like to be looking into putting down some roots and buying a home etc. and permanent work is often required to do this.

How long to wait for a postdoc to be advertized
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
I wouldn't write it off and I would probably chase again to see where the ad is. Meantime, I would be seriously looking at other opportunities - and I think I might tell her I was doing this so she knows that you need something concrete very soon or will go elsewhere.

I don't know if this healthy but personally I don't trust anyone in academia anymore!


Tudor Queen, I stopped trusting people in academia after my first year of my PhD. It had already started to crack during my MA. I think it is healthy to protect yourself. There is a lot of politics, mind games and back stabbing in academia.

Final year support thread
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Quote From Hugh:
Sarah, it did work :)

Chickpea and Zutterly, thanks. I have objectives clearly written up but that research question is the difficult one. I think I might wait till 1st drat is written up.


My overall question was very broad and not really a question, it was an exploration of attitudes/opinions/decisions over time, then I have three questions underneath that 'umbrella' so to speak that are slightly more specific.

How long to wait for a postdoc to be advertized
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Quote From KimWipes:
Thank Zutterfly for the message. Yes, after our communication (and also with few other people in here) I said no to the job but later she came back with a "much better offer" (of course as always verbal and nothing on the paper!)... I know it is time for move on but I am mad at myself why I waited this long to come to this conclusion ...


Don't be mad at yourself, I think when times are as bleak as they are now in this economy you probably would have been mad at yourself for not seeing the job offer through this far. However, you had no indication that they were being disorganised and untrustworthy until now because they have strung it out so much. You couldn't have known that early on in the process as you probably, as many of us would, assumed that they were just experiencing a few genuine delays in their planning, but it has now gone on for so long that you are entitled to come to the conclusion that they are messing you around a bit!