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Thread: Final year support thread

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03-Nov-16, 00:10
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Zutterfly, just thought I'd pop in to say thank you for suggesting breaking up the chapters per day. It sounds really obvious now, but Yesterday I was completely demotivated and fed up with the thesis, and breaking it up has meant I'm getting my mojo back. I've managed to do a few chapters today and will hopefully finish them all by the end of a week!

How are you all getting on?


You are welcome Hugh, I am glad it helped! I actually spent some time on my PhD for the first time in a while today (been putting all of my energy into preparing for job interviews recently). It was quite relaxing oddly because it was a break from prepping for job interviews and quite straight forward as I am just applying 'on paper' edits to my electronic copy of the final thesis so it does not require a lot of thought (e.g. re phrasing the odd sentence, deleting parts, shortening sentence length etc.). I will be spending the majority of the weekend on it though- I just want the job interview out of the way.

I didn't get the job I went for the other week by the way- I knew I wouldn't as I was a nervous wreck in the interview. Fingers crossed for this one :)

Thread: Final year support thread

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31-Oct-16, 15:55
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posted about 3 months ago
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A friend of mine skipped reading it themselves and just went to a proof reader right away as she felt sick of the sight of her thesis- she passed with no corrections.


This sounds like me. I am so tired of it, I don't even feel like doing a final read, but I need to do that final read this week.

Good luck with the next interview, and yes keywords/bullet points tend to work best. I do hope you'll have a much better experience this time round.


What I found helped with the final read (if this is helpful) was to split the hard copy by chapter or 2 chapters so I can see how much I had to read on each day which was motivating :)

Thank you for your good luck wishes Hugh, I am currently prepping using mind maps!

Thread: Final year support thread

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29-Oct-16, 15:25
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posted about 3 months ago
Teegs and Hugh- I am having a proof reader check mine before final submission. I have proof read the entire thing once on paper and added notes on the hard copy and I am in the process of updating the electronic copy to hand over to my supervisor. When she returns with comments/feedback I will apply that and then hand over to a proof reader because I really can't face reading it again! A friend of mine skipped reading it themselves and just went to a proof reader right away as she felt sick of the sight of her thesis- she passed with no corrections.

Hugh- yes, I have spoken to some non-academic friends about my experience at this interview too and they all responded with similar comments- the interviewer seemed rude and that they made me so nervous immediately as some of the panel just seemed hostile. In addition to the watch glancing, one member of the panel interrupted me halfway through an answer and the manager jumped in to overrule them and allow me to finish! The same one who interrupted me sighed really loudly when I answered a question from another panel member too. Pleasantries were skipped - I went to shake their hands at the beginning and end and they seemed reluctant to do so. So, really, I am not surprised I felt so nervous. I was just happy to be out of there.

The next one I am interviewing for is a job I really want. I also do not have the pressure to find work immediately, so maybe I should focus on that to calm me. I am going to make notes in accordance with the person spec and formulate a few points to have in mind for the generic questions e.g. strengths and weaknesses. I will just revise points rather than full sentences as I think that approach just makes me feel more pressured and stressed.

Thread: Final year support thread

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28-Oct-16, 15:48
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posted about 3 months ago
Hi Hugh,

Thank you so much for the detailed advice and pointers. I had a job interview today but it was for a teaching post. I prepared so much, but I am not sure how it went. I was a bit incoherent with my answers (the chair kept looking at his watch when I was answering!!) So I doubt ill get that one. I have always been told that it is fine to say ' may I have a moment to think about that question?' but they seemed to rush me. Do you have any pointers for ensuring that you do not ramble e.g. a way of buying time to collect your thoughts? Nerves really got the better of me and I did rehearse so many possible answers and examples but I got so flustered and rambly :( I have a research interview next week and I really really want to land that one! I feel I may do better with that one and I will probably spend more time actually revising from the specification as you suggest. For the teaching one, I revised loads of online example questions and I think that confused my train of thought a bit (a lot)

My sup says that she will 'skim it' so I doubt that she will be reading it cover to cover but she has, like yours, seen each chapter once. Though, when she saw those chapters, they were in the first draft stage and some have changed completely. If they think it is fine, I am not sure what else you can do apart from submit now- or do you mean they aren't getting back to you about your final draft and you are thinking about submitting instead of waiting for their comments?

Thread: Final year support thread

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27-Oct-16, 15:06
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posted about 3 months ago
Oh I am sorry to hear how long you have been waiting Hugh, that is so frustrating!!

Well my sup reckons I will be officially submitting in November but they are not the fastest at providing feedback so I reckon it will be December. I was meant to send them my full draft this week but it will be later next week (they want it binding which can take a few days at my institution's printing service department). I have proof read my thesis on paper (which took 6 whole days- dawn til dusk) and I have been working on applying the edits to the electronic copy.

I am behind with applying edits because I have a couple of job interviews lined up so I have been preparing loads for them, and I mean loads. I have one for a teaching only post and one for a research only post! Please keep your fingers crossed for me :) Also Hugh, any tips for research interviews would be amazing if you can remember your interview experiences well enough, but I understand it is difficult to remember what was asked!

Thread: Final year support thread

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17-Oct-16, 18:44
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posted about 3 months ago
Well done IntoTheSpiral :D

Thread: The Postgraduate Moans Thread

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14-Oct-16, 07:50
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posted about 3 months ago
I agree with Chickpea Hugh, I cannot see how it is possible to avoid referencing previous literature in your conclusion. If it helps, I answered each research question one by one by highlighting the significance and uniqueness of my findings which did involve comparing and contrasting with the literature previously cited in the thesis. I made recommendations and evaluated the methods etc. all of which I feel would be difficult to do without referencing previous literature. My sup had no issue with this.

I feel the same as you Hugh. My experience on the PhD hasn't been all bad. It has been mostly enjoyable overall, but yes I have experienced how toxic the environment can be and I am looking forward to getting into the routine of a job now.

Thread: The Postgraduate Moans Thread

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13-Oct-16, 16:12
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posted about 3 months ago
I have been feeling this way recently too. I remember having lots of emails ignored and then getting emails from them where they did not acknowledge my previous emails and instead asked favours etc. I was livid. I kept emailing though with the same questions and asked if there was a reason for them not responding to which I got a reply to. Not sure why that wasn't done the first time I emailed though.

I am desperate to find a job so I can move on. I am submitting another application this week and I am keeping everything crossed that I get somewhere with this one.

I have not handed in my full thesis draft yet but I am concerned it will take ages to come back to me.

Thread: Final year support thread

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07-Oct-16, 20:16
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I have completed editing and proofing the majority of my appendices and I am aiming to finish them by the end of next week before giving the whole thesis a final read before it goes to my sup. I am also presently applying for jobs, but I have had a horrible cold for two days and I think I may have to take it easy over the weekend!

I am happy that you have nice new hair Pjlu ;) I really nee mine sorting but I think that will be my 'reward' when I had it to my sup. I can at least not think about my thesis for a short while then :)

Thread: Over 2 weeks to assign reviewers?

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03-Oct-16, 15:22
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Whenever I have submitted journals, it has sometimes taken over a month to assign reviewers, then up to 6 months for the outcome to be reported. As most reviewers are typically active in academic posts, it is a very busy time with it being the start of a new academic year, so it may be taking a little longer to find people willing to review the paper.

Thread: Final year support thread

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02-Oct-16, 12:10
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posted about 3 months ago
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You may get a response, it's the start of the academic year and so really busy. I never received a decision on one so I rightly assumed I was unsuccessful (for a lecturing position) but the professor got back to me after about 2 months. I discovered that I had got to the final few people when they were shortlisting which boosted my confidence so that was good.

You are doing well to be getting interviews Hugh :) I just applied to another teaching job and was mindful of feedback from previous posts I applied to. Hopefully we will find something soon!


Best of luck! I just received feedback for the interview I had this week. They were lovely and said I performed excellently at the interview, but there was someone who had direct experience of the job with stakeholders and therefore had more of an edge. I was just glad to hear something positive, and didn't feel sad about being rejected :)


That's awesome :) Yes its just a case of keeping on trying, getting feedback, applying it where possible, and trying again! We will find something eventually.

Thread: Final year support thread

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29-Sep-16, 11:28
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posted about 4 months ago
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Zutterfly, I got rejected after 2.5 weeks :( I've asked for feedback from the professor but I'm not expecting a response. I've had another interview since then too, I'm waiting to hear back, I would be very surprised if I was offered it though.


You may get a response, it's the start of the academic year and so really busy. I never received a decision on one so I rightly assumed I was unsuccessful (for a lecturing position) but the professor got back to me after about 2 months. I discovered that I had got to the final few people when they were shortlisting which boosted my confidence so that was good.

You are doing well to be getting interviews Hugh :) I just applied to another teaching job and was mindful of feedback from previous posts I applied to. Hopefully we will find something soon!

Thread: Final year support thread

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28-Sep-16, 10:19
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posted about 4 months ago
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I'm also awaiting feedback on my first full draft and I'm kind of dreading it, especially because my second supervisor hasn't seen most of my writing before, and she is very strict. But I'm reassured that if it passes her high standards, then the viva will be much easier to pass.


The viva is something else I worry about- my sup does provide very thorough feedback and has a reputation for being strict but there is always that worry of 'what if we both missed an obvious mistake?' I have not handed the full draft in yet but I am battling with editing the conclusions at the moment so I am very close!

Well done on submitting the draft Hugh :) Did you ever hear anything about that job btw?

Thread: Final year support thread

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28-Sep-16, 09:12
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Pjlu I worry about the same thing! My sup has seen one version of each chapter and some of those were ones I had wrote in my first year that have now completely changed. I think they are much stronger and coherent but there is always that doubt.

Thread: Final year support thread

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27-Sep-16, 21:06
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I checked Chickpea and I have had confirmation from the postgraduate office that my uni does not do intention to submit, just told me to hand it in when im ready and advised me to make sure that I had examiners in place....which is exactly what I have been trying to do for weeks *sigh*

Intothespiral- ooooh so close! Must be exciting :)
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