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Thread: Final year support thread

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10-Aug-16, 09:31
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posted about 6 months ago
Quote From Hugh:
Well done to both of you too, you are both nearly there! :)

Don't forget to take some time off too, I think I've burnt myself out in past month, and I'm paying for it now, I'm so exhausted! I should pace myself more ...


I took from Wednesday to Monday off as I was recovering from surgery...I was itching to do something productive.

Hoping to make a start on editing the literature review by the end of this week. This is one of those chapters that need a lot of re writing so I need to stop procrastinating and just dive in to that one.

Thread: Final year support thread

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09-Aug-16, 22:53
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Wow well done Hugh!

You are nearly there Chickpea :)

I have the whole thesis but I am editing each chapter in order. Some need a lot more work, others need some tweaking. I have just made myself a timetable to stick on my wall to stay on track to have the full draft sent in October, but looks like I will be working a lot of weekends to accomplish it I think :/

Thread: Final year support thread

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08-Aug-16, 19:58
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posted about 6 months ago
Good ol' times new roman.

Yes, I know I am boring!

Thread: Final year support thread

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07-Aug-16, 14:19
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But I have about 10k to cut too so we are in the same boat! Maybe if we can cut 2k from 5 chapters? That may be more manageable :)

Thread: Final year support thread

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07-Aug-16, 14:17
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Zutterfly, have you tackled reducing the word count?

I've got to take about 10K and I was wondering if you have any tips?


I have not touched my PhD since Tuesday as I am recovering from surgery, only got home from hospital late on Thursday and have been sleeping and taking painkillers since! So no, I have done nothing about my word counts. The last think I was doing before going into hospital was proof reading my introduction that I recently finished. My next goal is to get my literature review edited and completed in the next 2 or 3 weeks and I am hoping I can cut some from that :)

Thread: Final year support thread

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27-Jul-16, 22:45
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posted about 7 months ago
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My CV is also 5 pages long and my cover letter is 1 page long for academic positions. For non-academic positions, I have not yet been asked for a CV, just have to keep filling in those boxes... and then address how I meet the selection criteria, which generally takes up 4 pages.


I may have been doing this incorrectly- I always approached the 'address how you meet the selection criteria' a bit like a cover letter, limiting the length to no longer than a page and half tops. This may have been the wrong approach however? Currently applying to a non-academic position within my university which my entire employment history and research is directly related, so I have done about three pages. I will see how it goes :)

Thread: Final year support thread

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25-Jul-16, 15:09
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posted about 7 months ago
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Yep, in fact I'm submitting my thesis only today haha. Just ran out of money basically. And as others have said, filling in applications does get easier with time, it becomes more of a copy paste exercise as most essential and desirable qualities are fundamentally the same. The main thing I found frustrating was how every job has a different system where you have to fill in everything on your CV into boxes and it takes aaaaages to do. What happened to sending off your super professional CV that you worked on for ages? haha


The requirement to input your CV into boxes is the most frustrating part! I tend to tackle that first before coming back a day or two later to write the covering letter so I can calm down!

Thread: Final year support thread

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25-Jul-16, 15:08
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posted about 7 months ago
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I've just re-designed my CV! Haha. I've almost completed my first proper application. My cover letter is one page and CV is around 5 pages. Does that sound about right?


Ooh, I'll keep my fingeres crossed for you! My CV is only 2 pages long, I've been told to not go over that. Although I'm not sure if there's more leeway for academic CVs... I also don't think I ever sent off an actual CV so basically, don't listen to me haha. The cover letter sounds about right from my experience, does the job advert not specify a length? From what I remember they usually did and this was generally 1-2 pages.


Hugh, yes academic CVs are longer- typically 5-7 pages. Mine is 5 pages if this reassures you! Also cover letters are preferred to be one page or not much over (page and half tops). The funny thing is, I have worked in careers advice and for councils helping long term unemployed back into work and education. I have successfully secured jobs for many other people, but I can't seem to land one for myself haha :)

Thread: Final year support thread

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22-Jul-16, 09:08
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Hi Hugh,

In all honesty, I would just apply and make sure you tailor your experience and skills to the post as much as you can! I applied for one and I was in the same boat and this is what I did. I wasn't shortlisted but I felt it was worth applying as after that initial application, I got faster at the others. I have noticed the quality of my supporting statements improve the more I have applied for :) It is a slog but one that we have to go through!

Thread: Final year support thread

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20-Jul-16, 17:19
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I am looking at academic and non-academic posts too. I would ideally like to stay in research, but I think the short-term contracts and pressure for publication is going to get frustrating. I'm therefore looking for RA posts instead of post-docs.

People love to ask me: so what are your plans post-PhD, and its turned into one of those dreaded questions.

On another note, I had a question about proof reading, that I've posted in the main thread too:

should i tell my supervisor I'm using a professional proof reader? Or is it better I keep that quiet?


Hugh- There is no issue with proof-reading as far as everyone in my department is concerned. All the PhDs before me used one and passed details of proof readers onto us for when we needed them. A friend in my department was awarded minor corrections and told to have her thesis professionally proof read before submitting the corrections, so it is a perfectly acceptable thing to do!

TreeofLife- I am currently applying for one professional services job but it is closely related to my thesis so I hope this may help. I have also worked with them casually before. What you are saying is helpful though, and I am happy you have realised which direction you would like to go in :) So I guess be super super enthusiastic if I get shortlisted? haha

Thread: Final year support thread

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20-Jul-16, 11:51
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I am the same- I don't want to relocate as my partner has a good job here and i have moved a crazy amount of times in the past.

I am applying for a mix of academic e.g. research/teaching and non-academic jobs that are within universities e.g. those in professional services. I am really not fussy on that front, I just want some money coming in so I can keep a roof over my head. Also, if you take a job and dislike it, you are not bound to that role forever and can move on. So this has informed my approach of applying for absolutely anything within universities!

Thread: Final year support thread

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20-Jul-16, 08:35
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Zutterfly you have inspired me to fill my 1st job application form! I don't expect to get it tbh, but if I don't apply I won't know!


Woohoo, I am inspirational! haha

Yes I think there is no harm in starting the applications now, even if nothing comes of it, it is good practice :) After my first few applications I am getting faster as I am able to reuse bits of cover letters and tweak them. I am currently on with my 5th- I wasn't shortlisted for two and the other two I am still awaiting the outcome. I was a bit disheartened in the early stages but a good thing to remember is it takes lots of applications to get a role. I was recently at a conference and people were telling me it took between 100-120 applications to get their current jobs :o

Thread: Final year support thread

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19-Jul-16, 11:13
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Zutterfly, good luck with your surgery! Definitely take time off, you will need it.

Chickpea, sorry to hear your week hasn't been as productive. Mine hasn't either. I don't know if its the heat, or the fact that I've had household stuff to sort out. I'm hoping tomorrow will be much more productive for you and me, and we can get down to work!


I am right there with you guys- I worked for a couple of hours yesterday then went to visit a friend (they are due to have a baby soon!)

Today I have barely done anything, but I am determined to finish this dreaded policy section in my introduction chapter! I will feel better when it is done :)

Chickpea- snap, my partner is away this week on holiday so I have an empty flat. I keep getting distracted with household stuff. Laundry becomes so fascinating when you are facing a bit of writing that you are dreading completing!

Thread: Final year support thread

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19-Jul-16, 08:00
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I am taking ten days off in August but its because I am having minor surgery (for breathing issues) and I cannot leave the house for a good week. I will be a bit bruised and swollen. I will still be working from home when I feel up to it, but I am officially on annual leave so I can avoid meetings etc. I am not too worried about taking time off at this stage and I think if you feel you would benefit from a rest then do it :) even if it is just a long weekend.

I am honestly hoping that my sup will be a bit faster as I am coming to the end and I hope that is the case with you too Hugh!

What is everyone up to this week?

Thread: Final year support thread

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18-Jul-16, 14:31
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Hi Hugh, thanks for the sympathies haha I got it submitted and aiming to do another this week- initially I had 3 to do this week but I am so strapped for time I am having to be selective over the ones I am applying for while still writing the PhD.

Word counts, argghh- I am also 20k over, but I am editing from the start of the thesis chronologically and plan to cut stuff as I edit (hopefully!)

Submission- aiming for the draft to be submitted October at the very latest. Actual submission may be December as my sup has to read it all and they are always super busy, so that part is out of my hands really (frustrating!)
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