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PhD Government Loan
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Quote From HumsApplicant:
Hi guys,

I recently got awarded funding, somewhat unexpectedly but delightfully. I also understand that the government has a new scheme which allows PhD students to take out a Doctoral loan
of up to 25k. (https://www.gov.uk/doctoral-loan/what-you-get). I think my stipend should be plenty and I have enough student debt already so I am erring towards not taking out this loan but I was just curious to have if anybody was thinking about taking it.


From what I understand of your position from your other posts, you are not eligible for the government PhD loan, as anyone receiving RC funding in any shape or form is not eligible.

I am not quite sure, but it seems likely from the SFC website that those on university scholarships (as opposed to RC funding) or other financial support from a 'non-public' source are eligible. I am waiting on the decisions of my university scholarship applications, and I have also applied for the PhD loan, intending to take both if my scholarship applications are successful.

Try for PhD or a Second MS
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Quote From Saadliaqat:


Ok, if you read from start, 69% was from the online tool (gradehub), 65% percent is what was told to me from Edinburgh after I asked them to clarify my overall percentage specifically regarding the two modules that only have a pass.



If Edinburgh had 'clarified' that your overall marks is 65%, how come they gave you a Pass for your Master's?Will you be returning your parchment for them send you a new one?


Lastly, why would you need gradehub to work out your overall average when Edinburgh would have supplied you with a full transcript, based on which you can easily work your average using any spreadsheet, especially when 'Big Data' is your field?

So long and thanks for all the fish!

Try for PhD or a Second MS
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Quote From Saadliaqat:
Hi Guys,

So long story short,
Edinburgh confirmed that my avg is 65 which is calculated excluding these two modules. Imperial admissions said no its 54, so now they are discussing internally.

I would not have followed up with my university if it wasn't for the supervisor I was in contact with @ Imperial.
He basically forced me to investigate this issue as he wanted me as his student (@TreeOfLife, he is btw a from MIT, and according to him my research statement was way better than the "perfect-scored" students he interviewed... be a little less judgemental in your comments from now on. ;-) )

Anyways, I got into the Technical University of Munich, which is equally better.

As an advice, i should probably post this somewhere for MS students. Check the modules you take and make sure they are "graded", if you are planning for a Ph.D

Thanks everyone..
case closed :D


As Alice might say, curiouser and curiouser.

First it was 69% not including the '0%' modules, not it is 65. Edinburgh, who first gave you a 'Pass', has now changed your grade to a Merit, with Imperial Admission insisting that you still have a Pass, and they are discussing this internally. I would like to know how Imperial can affect grades given out by Edinburgh. Either you have a Merit, or a Pass. It is Edinburgh's decision. Imperial has no say in this.

Furthermore, Your proposal is better than a 'perfect-scored' student, according to an Imperial academic, and he wants you to be his student so much that he is challenging Admission.

Finally, Technical University of Munich is 'equally better'.

Nice trolling!

Try for PhD or a Second MS
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The OP say that he passed these 2 modules of 20 credits each. Even if they were re-sits/re-submissions, they would still be capped at 50%, and not 0%. I really cannot see a situation where 40 credits out of 180 is treated as 0% as a matter of course, yet that 0% is still counted towards an average based on 180 credits.

I'd like to know which uni this is, and I can go and check on their rules, purely to satisfy my personal curiosity.

Try for PhD or a Second MS
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Quote From pm133:
Yes that's what I suspected. So the feedback you got about having low grades is correct then,
I think this is the equivalent of a 2:2 or grade average 50 to 59%.
I think merit is 60 to 69 and a distinction is above 70 but I might be wrong,

Either way this is probably why you are getting rejections. I dont think it has anything to do with individual module weightings.
Applying to very popular places like Imperial and Warwick is going to be tough as you'll be facing a throng of people with distinctions.


But surely if the OP had stated his case correctly, then the two modules where he passed, but scored 0 % somehow, contributed to his final grades, caused his low average.

This is the bit I don't get:

"After digging details ( for which I am still in contact with Uni of Edinburgh) . I found out that 2 of the modules I took (research proposal, research review) have only PASS or FAIL (no percentage). and somehow even though I have passed both modules, my overall percentage being calculated is taking into account 0% for both of them. these were 20 credit modules so 40 credits out of 180.

taking 0% of these two modules in my overall percentage is bringing it down to 54%.. I of course had no idea that if I take such modules 0% will be counted towards my overall grade."

If I got this correctly, he is saying that he got an average of 69% in 140 credits, and the 40 credits at 0% (both modules he passed without being given a percentage mark) dragged the 180 credits overall average to 54%. How can 40 credits out of 180 credits be classed as 0%, yet still are used in the calculations for the final average?

OP, please clarify.

PhD loans - what do you all think?
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Quote From pm133:
TQ, I haven't worded my post well to be fair.
I didn't mean to talk about personal failure to secure a funded position. I was talking in the context of a post which didn't have funding attached to it in the first place hence the need for a loan.
I think I am happy to stand by that comment but I made a dog's breakfast of my original post.


Even then, you are confused between the interested parties in charge of allocating research funds and 'society' in general. Or is it your assertion that all government agencies and quangos always reflect the interest and will of 'society'?

PhD loans - what do you all think?
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Quote From pm133:
It's sending a strong message that your research is not valued enough by our society to bother funding.
It's not a great place to start a PhD from.


LOL. If you say so.

PhD loans - what do you all think?
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Quote From bongmaster5000:

Honestly, if you can't get full funding for your PhD you really need to take a step back and listen to the message the system is telling you. I would personally never take out a loan or self fund.


Yes, I think this is the main point.


Why?

PhD funding Reserve list
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Quote From Ayurshi:
Quote From HumsApplicant:
Hiya, I received an email today to say that following an interview, I am on the reserve list for funding for the SWW DTP. I understand that there's no way of knowing how many people are on the list and what position I might be on it but does anyone know whether every candidate that gets interviewed gets placed on the reserve list?
This is my last chance for funding for this year so fingers crossed!

I am in the same boat, as I am on the reserved list for a PhD Scholarship and the waitlist pool consists of 6 candidates. I am unaware where I stand in terms of ranking of these 6 candidates, but if anyone could share their thoughts on the possibility of this panning out, that'd be really helpful.


Hope for the best, but expect the worst. Time to put alternative plans into action.

Improving Grades.
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Quote From Kevin1990:
How difficult is it to improve upon bad grades. Currently, I am getting Cs and Bs, I would like As. Am I trapped in school mode by thinking it should only take one semester to get an A?


Read more and think more.

Choicing a School
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Having gone through (and are still in the process of going through) the process of choosing the best uni for a PhD, here is my two-cents worth:

There are no reliable metrics to show the best uni that fit your topic...the best you can do is try and narrow down the field by matching potential supervisors' interest and expertise with your own, and the uni's particular strength in the area of your research interest. How likely you are going to get on with the supervisor is anyone's guess, as a twenty minute skype, or even face-to-face, interview is not going to reveal that much.

In that sense, the best bet might be to stay at the same uni where you did your undergrad/master's, as you would have a much better idea of the personalities of the supervisors. It also helps to talk to the current students of the potential supervisor if at all possible.

Research Ranking can also play a part. At least you have a better idea of the research environment as graded by the REF.

Hope this helps.

Last chance to complete my Master's dissertation (Political science)
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Assuming that you are a full time student, you would have done something similar already. Assignment deadlines for each semester usually all fall on the same date near the end of the semester. In a 12 week semester, topics for the essays are usually chosen in week 5-6, so that's 3 essays of 4 000 words, about the length of your dissertation, in about 6-7 weeks.

Even if you are part-time student, the above time scale would suggest that that it's normal to write 12 000 words in about a month and a half. Therefore, you have plenty of time to do a decent 12 500-words dissertation in 2 and a bit months. 4 000 words a week should be very doable if you have an outline planned. Use the rest of the time to edit, polish and proof-read. The best thing you could do is to stop worrying and starting writing. It's not a tight deadline, and you have plenty of time to produce a great dissertation!

Lastly, don't be too concern about grades as you write. Just concentrate on the logical flow, getting your (coherent) arguments across, and proper referencing. It's quite hard to actually fail, and you might well be surprised by your marks if you just get the basics right.

Applying Phd with mediocre Masters with Dissertation + conference paper
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Quote From pm133:
Deary me :-D
Maybe you should go to bed and come back in a less touchy mood tomorrow.
It would help if you stop taking things so personally. It's just an exchange of ideas.
That massive chip on your shoulder is not really conducive to a decent discussion.


Platitudes without content. I really had expected better from you...

Applying Phd with mediocre Masters with Dissertation + conference paper
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By the way, the original poster should definitely apply for funding. Personally I dont think we should be funding PhDs for anyone but those with 1st class degrees. We have too many PhDs and most appear to be a compete waste of time. From what I have experienced it is very rare to see anyone fail them. Academia is less fussy than me and will literally do anything for money these days.


Why are we getting stuck on undergrad grades, and ignoring Master's? The OP asked about his chances with a 2:1 and a 'mediocre' (Good pass? Low merit?) Master's. I can see the case that someone with a 1st-Distinction combination will have an edge over someone with a high 2:1 plus Distinction. But is it the case that a 1st plus a Merit will always trump a 2:1 plus a Distinctions when it comes to funding?

I always thought that a good Master's will mitigate a less than perfect Bachelors, but it seems, not according to you. And before your ask, yes, I do know someone from my cohort with a good first from a 'top' uni getting 'only' a high merit at Master's level.

Applying Phd with mediocre Masters with Dissertation + conference paper
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Quote From pm133:
Quote From chaotic1328:
FFS, I was looking at some student accommodations in Leeds, and some of the student halls (note; privately run student halls, not shared rented houses where the sitting tenants express their preference about a new housemate) have a stated maximum age of 32. Is this even legal?


That is actually quite funny.
People should have the right to choose who they do and dont live with in my opinion.


They do. Hence I stressed the difference between sitting tenants in a shared house expressing a preference about the type of housemates they want, and student halls run as businesses stating that they would not do business with customers above a certain age.

Given your impeccable academic record, I am surprised at your poor reading comprehension.

However, assuming that your reading comprehension is as good as your academic achievements, why would this blatant age discrimination by a business opened to the public be in anyway funny? Please expend.