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Thread: Resubmitting Thesis After Major Corrections/R&R

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20-Nov-15, 08:17
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Quote From Eds:
Sounds like a roller coaster mate- a slow moving and not-always enjoyable one, but at least- now! -an inevitable one. Would you be able to reveal your discipline? Just that 100,000 words I though was trad the max, give or take?

BEST OF LUCK!


Thanks Eds! Yes of course, my discipline is Sociology. When I initially submitted a year ago there was no official word count to adhere to (strange but true). Although the school has now implemented a word count of 80,000, I've been told it doesn't apply to me as I submitted before this was in place. My viva report didn't tell me to take anything out of my thesis or cut back in any way - my examiners wanted me to add more chapters. Fellow academics have been shocked by this but it is what it is...I just hope all my hard work pays off now. Will let you know! :)

Thread: Finally, viva!

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18-Nov-15, 20:13
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Good luck! I hope it is a rewarding experience for you and that you manage to enjoy it amidst the stress! Let us know how you get on :)

Thread: Resubmitting Thesis After Major Corrections/R&R

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18-Nov-15, 20:11
by faded07
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As per the title, I am finally resubmitting my very long thesis (153,000 words!) after a tedious year of corrections. I thought I would write a post for anyone who has been given major corrections or an R&R verdict in the hopes that it will give them some encouragement.

I was absolutely devastated to be given major corrections after my viva. The amount of work on my corrections list seemed impossible, to the extent that I didn't even know where to start. There were also some serious issues with both my school and my supervisor and I was let down on many levels quite spectacularly.

In light of all this, I am handing in my revised thesis tomorrow (yippee!) and wanted to share what I have learnt from this soul destroying experience:

1. I really want this PhD. I thought I wanted it a year ago but my determination to get a doctorate has definitely reached another level through this correction period. If I do get my PhD, I know I will appreciate it much more than if I had passed or been given minor corrections.

2. My examiners, to some extent, were right. My new chapters have made my thesis so much stronger. Although I still feel quite hard done by, my corrections have made me a more rounded academic.

3. Stress is inevitable but you should never let it take its toll on your health. I fainted (completely blacked out) whilst at the peak of my PhD stress and also felt very run down and short tempered. It didn't do me any favours. Be sure to make time for the things outside academia that make you happy.

Good luck to anyone working on their corrections - don't lose hope! I have to endure the long wait for my result now...which could be minor corrections, another viva, a pass or a fail. I'll keep you all updated! Thank you to the many fellow PhD'ers who took the time to write to me over the past year, it helped me enormously.

Thread: Revise & Resubmit :(

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30-Oct-15, 13:11
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by faded07
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Thanks everyone for the advice :)

Just received an e-mail from my sup informing me that the post-viva report would be ready in two weeks' time. Meanwhile, I've booked a short holiday for me & the family. I will also try to get hold of motivational books to keep myself upbeat about the whole situation.

Many thanks again !


Hi Charliebrown, just wondering if you have any update on your situation? I got exactly the same result as you last December and am due to resubmit in the next couple of weeks. Would love to hear how you got on if you've resubmitted?

Thread: :( Revise and resubmit PhD thesis in 12 months!!! Success stories?

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30-Oct-15, 09:34
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My viva was today... I got major corrections and 6 months to resubmit... Did all of you feel worthless and hopeless and cried for hours? I cant stop crying... ALthough I know I'll correct it and (probably) get the phd... But still... It seems so unfair. I did so much work, self funded all of it for 5 years and now I have to re-register and pay a continuation fee... And I have no money for that, which means a bank loan (if I can even get that with the way my account looks.....) Seriously would be easier to just get a regular job and throw this phd to the bin... but so many years! ........ Cant stop crying............. :-(


Hi ariahar, I'm so sorry to hear how upset you are. I was given major corrections last December and felt exactly the same way as you. I was absolutely devastated and it took me a good couple of months to even look at my thesis again. My viva was awful and I went away feeling uninspired and lost. My supervisor has also been rubbish since that day and has given me limited supervision and very little support. However, fast forward 10 months later and here I am now *almost* ready to resubmit (hoping to do it in the next two weeks!) It has been such a difficult year...but, what I will say, is that it's made me a much stronger person and a much more rounded academic. PhD's mean something completely different to those who are given major corrections or an R&R verdict. Give yourself a bit of a break and then just jump back into it. Find the passion you once had for your topic and work from that basis. I wish you all the luck in the world - keep pushing forward!

Thread: PhD vs job opportunity

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05-Sep-15, 21:34
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That's a really tricky one - and it sucks that you aren't able to change to part time. I think you have to ask yourself what your PhD means to you. Why are you doing your PhD? You will eventually get to the job you want after you've finished - it's not all as bleak as people say it is. If you love your research and fear that having a break from it will throw you off track then I'd stick to the PhD and see it through. However, if you feel you need a break from it then maybe it will benefit you in the long-term - both professionally and academically. Good luck! :)

Thread: End of the Very Long Road?

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05-Sep-15, 21:29
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I had my viva 9 months ago and was given major corrections (see my previous posts for full info). I spent a good 3 months struggling to do the corrections and found them very heavy and lacking in detail. Anyway, come the beginning of the summer I dedicated all my time to getting the corrections done and 'found my flow' again as such. I worked incredibly hard and followed my viva report as closely as possible. Six months later and I am on track to meet my deadline of submitting my thesis 3 months ahead of schedule.

This celebration has, however, been somewhat short lived. I've recently been told by my supervisor that my writing isn't up to academic standard and that he would fail me if he was my examiner. This comes after he gave the go ahead for me to submit my thesis in the first place last year and after a long summer of him giving me very little guidance. He's told me to get in touch with the university's writing support service which, at this stage, feels beyond humiliating. However, I've swallowed my pride and done it, whilst also getting some feedback from paid-for online editing services. Now my head is in a complete spin as everyone - the support service, 2 editing services & my supervisor - are all giving me completely different feedback.

And, to top it all off, the biggest praise I got from my examiners was that my thesis was - and I quote - "very well written". My supervisor, however, is now saying it never was and still is not. He has also assumed my 'quick' turn around of corrections (I don't deem 6 months as being that quick) is a rushed job. This is not the case at all and I am absolutely determined to get this right.

I can feel that my health is deteriorating (again) and I am sinking into PhDepression at a stage where I thought I was almost ready to resubmit. Has anyone else been given this kind of shitty advice so late?

Thread: Viva Report/Thesis Corrections

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21-Aug-15, 11:46
by faded07
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I'm hoping for some advice regarding my viva report. I've recently finished my corrections (was given major corrections/R&R - officially I was told major corrections in my viva but the school has treated it as an R&R since then). I have added in everything my examiners have asked of me and followed my viva report very carefully. I'm now in editing mode and my supervisor has made a lot of changes to my introduction. Although I've had to make minor changes to this (by including an overview of the 2 new chapters I was asked to write), my viva report did not say to change anything about my introduction. My supervisor is almost suggesting to re-write it but I'm dubious about doing this as this is not something my examiners asked of me? It has already changed quite a lot through both my own additions and my supervisors recommendations - would rewriting it be risky at this stage?

I want to make sure my thesis is written for my examiners and not for my supervisor as this (I think) has contributed in part to my result of major corrections. Any advice?!

Thread: Resubmitting Post-Viva - Terrified!

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27-Jul-15, 13:26
by faded07
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I had my viva six months ago and was given major corrections (although I still fail to see much difference between major corrections and R&R). After a very demotivating viva experience and a lot of drama beyond this (the chair lost my viva report & I had a 3 months wait to get my hands on it), I have finally finished my corrections.

On the one hand I am really pleased as I genuinely believed that I would never get my corrections done as they were so overwhelming. So it's an amazing feeling to have, in essence, done the impossible! However, I am currently editing my new chapters & corrections in accordance with my supervisor's critique and now feel incredibly stressed and nervous again. I appreciate that embarking on a PhD is an isolating experience and you are always in a world of 'not knowing' what the hell is going to happen next (which doesn't bode well for an organised 'needing to know what's round the corner' person such as myself). However, I'm starting to seriously lose sleep over resubmitting my thesis and fear that I will either get called for viva again (the first one was one of the worst experiences of my life so I don't really fancy a second), or my thesis will be failed completely. I have worked so hard over the past 5 years and seriously disagreed with some of the recommendations of my viva report...but I've done everything that's been asked. This process has just been so tedious and unpredictable, (with little support from my supervisor), I fear the system is just going to chew me up & spit me out for the last time.

Has anyone got any advice so I can stop losing my much needed sleep?!

Thread: Working on Corrections Post-Viva - Help!

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29-Jun-15, 17:44
by faded07
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I was hoping for some feedback from anyone who may have been in my position (I was given major corrections - see my earlier post for extensive ranting!)

One of the recommendations in my viva report was to basically combine my two major theories into one theory (Foucault + Feminism = Foucauldian Feminism). I am writing a new chapter specifically on this but it also says in my report to use this new theory "more explicitly throughout the thesis". I am finding this quite difficult. They haven't asked me to take anything out or change anything that I'd already written. I'm therefore slotting in my new theory by adding to my current chapters - this ranges from adding a few pages and/or paragraphs to each chapter where I (somewhat awkwardly) bring in this new theory. It all seems a bit of a jumble to me but I appreciate that, as a PhD candidate, I have to master this.

What I wanted to ask was has anyone been given a similar challenge and, if so, did you go about it the same way as me?! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, thank you! :)

Thread: R&R - what did you have to do?

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22-May-15, 16:08
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by faded07
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I was given major corrections and can't see much difference between R&R and major corrections so will give you my story anyway.

I've been asked to add two new chapters to my thesis and also merge two of my theories into one (Foucault & Feminism if you're doing Sociology by any chance?!) and discuss this throughout the thesis as a whole, so basically slotting in more paragraphs where necessary.

Everyone's corrections are different and, with a positive attitude, you can plough through them more quickly than you think. However, there are some days/weeks...even months where you feel like you're just not going to get the PhD (how I feel at the moment). The success stories give you the will to carry on fighting though.

Good luck :)

Thread: Corrections

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22-May-15, 15:57
by faded07
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I completely understand how you feel - I'm in the same state as you, other than my corrections being classed as major (see my recent post).

I think some days are easier than others. A few days ago I was working on my corrections and getting loads done so felt generally positive. Then today I've been sat at my laptop for about 4 hours and written a few sentences. And yes I, too, have cried many tears and wanted to throw many books (including my bound thesis) out of the window!! Truth be told: on the day of my viva I almost threw my thesis in the university pond I was that angry!

However, I've learnt a lot over the past few months that I wouldn't have experienced had I passed with no corrections. With your corrections - is it a case of just doing them and sending the thesis to your external again or will it be marked internally? At least you don't have the risk of another viva...that's the nightmare that has become my reality.

I hope things get better for you - feel free to message me if you want to talk as I think we're in pretty similar positions. Good luck! :)

Thread: Losing hope whilst working on thesis corrections...

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22-May-15, 15:48
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I had my viva last December and was given major corrections which I was gutted about. Since then there has been a load of drama with my school - long story short: my viva report was lost by the chair (who failed to have a back-up copy) and the school didn't get my report to me until nearly 4 months after my viva. Due to this I have lost job opportunities and money as I turned down extra teaching hours in order to work on my corrections but seemingly couldn't because I had no report to work from.

Anyway, I'm writing up my corrections now (which broadly consist of adding an additional 2 chapters amongst some additions to old chapters) and am feeling completely lost. I had been feeling more positive over recent weeks as it was good to finally get to work on the corrections etc. But after a couple of days tearing my hair out trying to find academic work on particular areas that seem impossible to find, I'm feeling like this could all be for nothing.

I might have a second viva which is down to the discretion of my external examiner after she reads my revised thesis. That thought alone is terrifying me. If another viva does happen and she still can't find the will to award me the PhD, my only other option would be to go to another institution, pay another 2-3 years worth of fees and resubmit the thesis all over again to a different examining board. After what will be 5 years of full-time PhD study, that thought is unbearable.

Maybe I'll finish these corrections and the thesis will pass (hallelujah) but my heart says that it won't be that simple. I suppose I'm looking for anyone's similar experiences or uplifting stories to give me a bit of hope and positivity! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thread: Has anyone contested their corrections post-viva?!

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24-Feb-15, 13:12
by faded07
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Hi JStanley, thank you so much for your response. Hearing stories such as yours helps me immensely. The general consensus I'm reading from you and others is to get on with my corrections - this certainly seems to be the safest bet. I've just finished writing a two page document for my examiners about my corrections. I'm still in talks with my supervisor as to whether I can contest my corrections or not - the above responses have definitely put me off having the 'audacity' to do such a thing! In the document I have discussed about 50% of the corrections they've given me, often asking for more clarification as to how to approach the corrections instead of actively contesting them. For example, for one point I've put the following:

"In regards to the exploring the figures of the ladette (discussed on pages 20-22), Playboy (discussed on pages 7-8), metrosexual (discussed in terms of the ‘new man’ on pages 11, 108 & 254) and the girl next door (mentioned on page 15) – in what ways should I develop these discussions further and incorporate them into the thesis?"

Do you think raising issues such as this is completely futile? As you can see in my example, I feel like I've already talked about these figures & am confused as to how to develop them further.

Thank you again for telling me your story - it offers a much needed light in my current PhD darkness! I think I might even print it off and look at it when I'm feeling like I should give up!! :)

P.S. It's been over 10 weeks since my viva & the school still haven't provided me with the official copy of my viva report (they lost it & both the examiners & the chair didn't have a back-up copy). All I've been given so far (only got it last week) is an unofficial reiteration of what they said on the day of my viva.

Thread: Has anyone contested their corrections post-viva?!

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23-Feb-15, 14:06
by faded07
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I feel like I'm the only person in the world to have contested their viva corrections. I don't agree with a lot of them (about 70%). For example, my examiners want me to explain how my thesis contributes to the field of Media Studies. I am not a media studies student and I wrote my thesis for the fields of sociology, gender & sexuality studies, cultural studies, feminism and critical sexology. I really don't want to take my thesis down a media studies route simply because it's not the field I'm writing for, nor is it my area of interest or expertise.

If anyone has contested their corrections please let me know because my school has no guidelines for this and still won't confirm whether I am able to write a report outlining why I disagree. Help!!
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