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How to get an RA position?
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Following my RA jobs post yesterday, I'm really concerned about whether I will have a shot with RA experience at all and would really appreciate advice/personal experiences of undertaking an RA role. I recently graduated, got a first in my degree, won an award by Royal Society of Biology for highest mark, and only got a month's experience (so far) with a professor at a top-ranked University.

I'm planning to continue this in Jan/Feb time voluntarily whilst I continue to apply but I'm so afraid of whether I even am fit to compete at this point. I study the job specs and can always almost do 90-95% of it but I am so afraid of the competition being so fierce that I may not get interviews. Any experience of people with BSc degrees getting into roles and such? Also would like to say, my masters got delayed with no fault to my own so that is also in my plans but I'd rather at this point really get the experience knowing how hard it is to get a job and how difficult it'll continue to be after masters/phd.

Research Assistant Jobs
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Quote From TreeofLife:
I think most jobs are like this to be honest.


I've applied to basic roles which I haven't got much experience in (admin, office work) only a few months here and there and they reply within a week usually atleast, some within days. I'm not too interested in these except for a temporary situation, my main focus in academic roles prior to doing post-grad.

Research Assistant Jobs
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Quote From HazyJane:
It's good to brush up on new stuff, but for an RA job hopefully they won't be expecting you to have a full mastery of a wide range of techniques. Rather, be prepared to talk about any research experience you've had to date (e.g. third year project, summer placements) including the strengths and limitations. I fell fowl of this once in a PhD interview outside my main topic area - put all my effort into swotting up on the topic of the post but wasn't able to talk confidently about my existing experience. Needless to say I didn't get an offer!


I'm feeling somewhat hopeful as I have nearly everything (except 3 points on their job description) covered and I hopefully have portrayed that in my CV and cover letter. I also had some voluntary experience at another UCL institue which I'm planning to go back to for the time being in Jan/Feb time to have something to work on. But then again, it just feels heartbreaking and honestly extremely frustrating when it doesn't work out. I only started to see positions for graduates recently too, before all I kept seeing was positions for PhD candidates. So it's either I wasn't looking properly or there wasn't as much available as there is now. I feel like this month I'm not going to have done anything except apply for jobs and hopefully interviews start coming in the new year.

Research Assistant Jobs
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Quote From TreeofLife:
It's probably best to keep your options open (i.e. apply for other jobs) and not get too fixated on one job as you may be very disappointed then if you don't get it.

Interview prep is always good anyway, if not for this job then for the next one.

If the job is advertised without a PhD requirement, they don't actually want someone with a PhD. Also, they may not necessarily give it someone with a PhD because they may anticipate that person will get bored easily ie generally people don't do a PhD because they want to do a RA job. Of course someone with a PhD can get the position in some cases, a job is a job at the end of the day, and it may not be something the person wants, but something they apply for through lack of other opportunities.

I know several people with PhDs in technician roles - some are permanent and happy with this as it suits their lifestyle requirements, and some are temporary whilst they look for postdocs/industry roles.


That's been my main focus and I'm continuously doing this, it is disheartening though as I don't hear anything for weeks and it seems academic roles are like this.

Research Assistant Jobs
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Thanks guys, I feel UCL is quite erratic with their response timing as they never specify an interview date. I'm assuming it won't be told until after the new year myself but it is also very frustrating as I can do a lot of reading for it to be prepared just being hopeful I do get it and then come January I may not even get an interview so it'll be sort of effort wasted, any advice what to do whilst I wait it out that will be productive?

I'm thinking to brush up on my knowledge in general, pick up on new techniques and also work on job interview skills generally. And the position was based for BSc graduates (as the minimum) at Grade 6, is it therefore likely or possible by any chance that a person who has completed their PhD can obtain the position? It seems unfair but I'm not sure if it does actually happen.

@HazyJane the deadline was on 23rd Nov. and the start date is in March/April 2016.

Research Assistant Jobs
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I've applied (and I'm continously applying) to jobs offered to BSc graduates as my masters/phd is being severely delayed so a good chance to get some real experience and see if I can get a job. I applied to a few institutions at UCL but have yet to hear anything, any advice/experience anyone can share about the application process and how long it can take? It's been two weeks today since my first application and the one I'm most hopeful for.

Edit: my status reads Application Received

Is it worth doing a PhD?
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Quote From windowsill:
not in your field, but to say some general things and to explain the sarcasm: it *is* really dire. also, sarcasm = poor working climate prevalent in academia, you might as well get used to it. search for 'mental health' in this forum and see whether you like what you read. ask yourself whether you want to put yourself through this.
you can likely expect all the unpredictability and worry about instability after the phd for a number of years due to the wonderful short term contracts. also, nepotism is key.
maybe you're better off doing a phd in other countries: netherlands, switzerland, sweden germany, belgium.


Thanks for the honest answer, it is something I'm really considering and the instability after is sort of the major factor. I'll seek graduate jobs before doing masters and see how it goes.

Is it worth doing a PhD?
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Can you please address everything I've stated in my initial message. I'm trying to find out more information and I do not appreciate sarcastic responses.

Is it worth doing a PhD?
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Hi all, I did post a message about advice before doing MRes/PhD and I've been constantly reading a lot of threads, I think it'd be better if I had the chance to talk to people personally who are currently doing their masters/phds but I cannot. However, I have been asking recruiters (in medical field) for advice and action steps. It boils down to the question as to whether it is worth doing a PhD?

I recently graduated from BSc Biological Sciences with a strong first and I'm interested in pursuing research as a career. However, I've been reading about the possibility of lack of jobs after completing your phD and the constant worry of unstability which is very worrying. I then looked into medical writing as another option and that also requires a PhD. If you have successfully completed a PhD in Cell/Molecular Biology, can you please share your story and any words of advice, I'd greatly appreciate it so I can figure out my next moves. I'm already struggling with a career position for research and I'm currently waiting on offers from universities I've applied for research assistance roles.

Advice before choosing to do Science MRes/PhD
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Thanks for helping TreeofLife, to be honest I'm not entirely sure myself. Initially when I finished my degree, as I really enjoyed the dissertation, it's what I wanted to do which is lab work plus publications, in which I understand the route to go through is MRes/MSc then PhD. However, I've been reading a lot and realise how difficult it is to settle into a career with doing post-doc positions which are so highly competitive already and therefore has led many people to misery. I have not been able to secure a job in research assistance holding a Bsc as you said, it's simply just not enough.

Advice before choosing to do Science MRes/PhD
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Hey all, new member here. I have recently just graduated with completing a Biological Sciences degree and have a lot of trouble securing employment. There's a few research positions geared towards graduates I applied for and I'm awaiting their response in addition to previously doing voluntarily lab experience which I'm planning to continue if nothing else seems to be happening from next week.

I have been reading a lot of the stability and I'm aware of the lack of jobs/opportunities for scientific research which is what I wanted to get into. I'd rather prefer to get a research job prior to a degree in masters research for the experience that it provides plus networking and making contacts. Right now, I'm in the position is I'm not sure what to do. I feel completely stuck, I only got interested in scientific research in my final year and the best move I made was to intern for a bit and also my masters got pushed back otherwise I'd be starting in a month (frustratingly). Any advice for an aspiring research scientist, I'd be very grateful. Thanks