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Thread: Sick of 2.2 haunting me. Please read and help me understand what I have to do!

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13-Jan-17, 21:03
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posted about 5 days ago
Hi there csonm,

Ephiny has mentioned the competitive nature of Phd entry and I think this factor definitely would influence how your qualifications are viewed in applications. So by this, I mean that your 2.2 and research Masters are good enough for you to apply absolutely, but if there are a number of candidates for a post, and they need to be ranked for a highly competitive short listing process, then the 2.2 could make a difference sometimes if all else is equal between you and any of the competition.

However, this wouldn't necessarily be true for every application you apply for and you won't know until you go through the process, much of it will depend on the competition happening for each particular application. Don't lose heart with the author publication, these can take a while to be approved and reviewed as well. I think also the other posters have mentioned the gap between your completion of your qualifications might be a concern as this would put you in competition with others who have less time between their degrees and quals and application for the PhD.

I know your circumstances might seem unfair regarding the much earlier 2.2, but, as pointed out but the other posters, you can't change this- it is what it is. It doesn't make you less intelligent, less apt, or less of a person in any way, shape or form.

So if you can't change the 2.2, and you do have a bit of a gap between your completion of degrees, what sorts of things could you do in the meantime to make yourself more competitive in a highly competitive field?

You might need to consider how to market your abilities to universities to appeal to them now-today. Is there any other qualifying short course you could do that might assist to make your application more competitive, or help you craft a research proposal that is highly appealing to various institutions?

There are some really good pieces of advice in this chain of responses (offered by other posters) and if you have set your heart of hearts on the Phd pathway, then following up on these may help with the next few applications.Good luck with it all-it sounds like a very tough situation for you.

Thread: How blunt should you be with your supervisor?

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09-Jan-17, 06:31
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Hollis, how well do you know your supervisor and do you have an established sense of 'trust' with them? I ask because reading your very last post, if I were the employer, I would want to know if what you describe was occurring with members of my team so that I could either provide some support or work through some strategies with you.

I ask about the trust because my in my role (Assistant Principal of Secondary College or 'Assistant Head' in the UK), it wouldn't be uncommon for people on my team to come to discuss problems with their work or with other team members sometimes, and the conversation would go no further than my office. What we would do though is work through the issue and find solutions-usually from a 'no blame-solutions focussed' model. I think, or like to think, that most people work like this, but not all do and so it would be important to have some form of trust relationship with your supervisor, so that you can have a conversation that provides some answers or options and you don't just feel like you are complaining or trying to find fault with a colleague.

Having said this, I wouldn't think that the option would be to punish anyone, just to sort things out so that things were working productively again.

The best option in all cases is to actually have the conversation openly with the post doc himself and try to resolve things but this can depend on the personality of the person as well. When having difficult conversations, with anyone, it is really important to be calm, not to blame, use 'I statements', and listen to the other person (even when you believe you are in the right).

Thread: How blunt should you be with your supervisor?

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07-Jan-17, 19:38
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Hollis, it reads as if there are more than one messy issue here all rolled into the one tangled ball, which can make it hard to know what to do. I'm with the others regarding NOT informing your supervisor regarding the post doc's lack of support for others (unless you were directly asked by your supervisor for your opinion-on the supervisor's initiative-not yours).

However, I don't see why it wouldn't be okay to let your supervisor know that the post doc wasn't providing any instruction in specific lab techniques (for yourself), if that is actually what your supervisor is expecting that is and your supervisor has directly said this to you.

Rather than having a blunt (and perhaps angry) conversation, can you have a clarifying and polite conversation with your supervisor that just confirms what you are responsible for in your role and the lab, and what your supervisor expects of others. Don't make it about the post doc, make it about your own need to have clarity around your own responsibilities and role and then, as others have suggested, keep focusing on your own work and data-as really that is your main priority. You could do this just as a way of getting feedback regarding your own progress and role in the lab.

Understand completely the need to have an anonymous or private vent about it. If the post doc is shirking their responsibilities, this would be a frustrating experience to have to live and work with.

Thread: Part time PhD

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07-Jan-17, 05:36
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Hi there, can I just ask-would quitting the part time phd at this very moment have any impact really on your quest for employment?

If you quit your PhD right now, you would still be looking for work right? Would another option be to continue on your part time PhD, while still looking for work and then when you have found employment, make a reassessment of your options? You might still quit the PhD once you have found employment you like, or you may still defer, or you may continue (very slowly), but right now if you quit the PhD, you still need to keep looking for suitable employment.

From an employer's perspective, someone studying part time while they look for work may be more appealing from an employment prospect or on the 'cv'. Just an alternative perspective-which may not be appropriate for your circumstances-ignore if so.

Thread: Failed Phd, got MPhil

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07-Jan-17, 05:17
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Good luck Carley. Would have been a such disheartening experience to go through. Hope the appeal goes well.

Thread: Final year support thread

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07-Jan-17, 04:49
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Well done, Starsgoblue and Teegs!-wishing you all the best in the next few weeks and months. And Starsgoblue- hope the nerves don't get too much-I'm sure that your writing will be fine.

I am having around a 4-5 week holiday from my chapter edits, as I have taken a new job which entails an interstate move, selling up and organising house, pets and other matters. Currently I am typing this in the only room in the house that has furniture. This has delayed my submission date by a couple of months at least-so while I was hoping to go for end of Jan-Feb-the new job, life and place means it will be more likely to be ready to submit around May. Hugh and Zutterfly, I can't stand my research at the moment but am hoping that once I have settled in can muster up enough discipline and motivation to forge through the edits and submit. I think Chapters 1-3 are pretty much right-now just need to keep working through 4-8. But moving house is pretty draining. Anyway, all's well and wishing everyone else much encouragement. Keep up the incremental work and it will eventually be complete! Cheers all and best wishes for 2017.

Thread: Final year support thread

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07-Oct-16, 21:20
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posted about 3 months ago
I am happy that you have nice new hair Pjlu ;) I really nee mine sorting but I think that will be my 'reward' when I had it to my sup. I can at least not think about my thesis for a short while then :)[/quote]

Thanks Zutterfly :). I think the hair was the only thing that really worked well yesterday. Today the cider has worn off and I am looking realistically at my work plan and changes and accepting that again (sigh) as with the Masters thesis-"it is going to take as long as it takes". I'm well within my part time time frame so I can hardly complain.Good luck with your plans and hope the cold doesn't hang around too long.

Thread: Failed PhD Viva - need to R&R - anyone done this and passed 2nd time around?

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07-Oct-16, 10:21
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posted about 3 months ago
Neither, but I thought I would present a perspective that might be useful-not right now-you are probably righteously angry-but perhaps later on "down the track" *(* Local colloquialism from obscure outback region in Australia ).

If you do go down the R & R pathway with the same examiners, I'm betting that they will pass you in a year's time. They will just want to see you take their criticism seriously and make a few adjustments and then you will be awarded your PhD. So while this seems incredibly unfair and doubtful now-I'm punting that they just want to see these changes acknowledged and some adjustments made.

I'm not suggesting for a moment that this is because they are right, just that this is a likely outcome. So probably this message isn't going to bring much joy right at the moment but it might help with decision making a bit later on. Ignore it though if you need to. Ive just anaethestised myself with a couple of ciders so understand if the desperation and associated feelings don't buy this message in any shape or form.

Thread: Final year support thread

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07-Oct-16, 09:03
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Well I have just had a 100 minute meeting where we went through Chapters 1-6 in depth but still have 7 & 8 to go through. Lots of editing required. Lit review chapter is the one that needs the least-barely any so that's good. Other chapters need reorganisation and I now need to probably structure my thesis in three sections on top of the chapters:

Section 1-Cp 1-3 Intro, Lit Rev, Methods
Section 2 -Data Chapters 4,5 & 6
Section 3- Overall Discussion and Conclusion

Some other stuff as well -no mention of submission in 3 months (sigh).

Good news today, I went to the hairdressers and have absolutely fantastic hair at the moment, much good may it do me.

Thread: Disagreement in PhD reports

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05-Oct-16, 22:14
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posted about 3 months ago
I think sometimes it is the lack of control over the final outcome and the long spaces of time to wait, that really get under the skins of PhD candidates. You do just have to wait long periods of time throughout the PhD and it is hard, no matter how disciplined you are or how well you structure your time during the wait.

Infinity cat, you mentioned starting an academic position which requires your completion next year-chances are you will meet the deadline. However, even if the dates are a little extended, if your current employer likes your work, I would imagine that they will be supportive and understanding about minor extensions.It will have happened to others before and, based on what you have written, it seems very unlikely that you would not be awarded a PhD. The worst outcome would be, as Mattfab noted earlier, is that you might have the R & R with a probable and expected pass awarded at the end of the process.

Thread: Final year support thread

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27-Sep-16, 22:58
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posted about 4 months ago
Yes, I think it is fairly common for universities to vary in this ruling. One person I knew of (at a different university) had to give several weeks, whereas at mine, it is a straight 3 months. We also have to give a paper to the department at around the same time as giving our notice to submit, but I will just revamp my recent paper I think rather than creating a new one. I think this replaces the viva voce (which is not common in Australian universities). So this provides the academics and other Post grads an opportunity to really question you on the whole thing.

Good luck to everyone. Zutterfly, I agree with the sinking feeling regarding appendices, I feel the same way but not sure why. It will probably be fine...and Intothespiral- good luck and well done.

My worry is that I'm pretty sure my supervisors have only read selected chapters and some from a while ago so I don't quite know what it will be like when they read the full thing. It reads coherently to me but that's because I know (or think I know) what I am on about. So my real hope is that they agree that I am where I think I am...

Worse case scenario they want some major rewrites and a bit of an extension. I so desperately want to have it over with by mid January and to do some other things with my weekends and holidays.

Thinking of you all on this thread and wishing the best :)

Thread: Am I being bullied or am I just gutless?

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26-Sep-16, 23:24
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posted about 4 months ago
I don't think yelling is the appropriate response and understand this person's actions can be intimidating. Having said that, you find that academia is like the world of work everywhere, you have to work with people whose behaviour can be difficult at times.

I would approach this person directly, (when they are not busy or distracted) and just apologise for not cleaning up the glass immediately and clarify that you intended to but were distracted by the phone call. Then just finish with saying that it won't happen like this again.

Don't try to be friends or look for any specific behaviour or response from this person afterwards, just move on.

And my other thoughts would be not too worry too much about their thoughts about you or their behaviour in general. Your own supervisor will be supportive of you and that's the main thing.

Just acknowledge that this particular response of yours was probably not the best at this time, you won't do it again and then focus on your own plans and tasks.

Thread: Final year support thread

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26-Sep-16, 23:13
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posted about 4 months ago
Quote From teegs90:
Quote From Zutterfly:
What are everyone's remaining goals this week? How long until final submission for everyone else?


I've nominated to submit on the 28th November. So close and yet so far! My main goal is to get a draft of my final paper done, plus another chapter, the general discussion or methodology - still trying to decide which is the priority.


Firstly to all posters discussing and nominating a submission date in the next few days and weeks-good luck and congratulations on all you have done to get to this point-awesome work.

My goals are: to be officially given the nod to formally notify for submission on Oct 17th-which would make the final date-or formal submission date-January 17/17.
To this end, I have a complete draft in print form that I am fine-tuning in the editing process and a meeting with both supervisors in 10 days time, where I hope they have read it and agree I can formally notify.
I gave a paper around three weeks ago at a conference in another country-which was scary but exciting-and hoping very much indeed that my supervisors comments reflect my hopes that while editing and including appendices, contents pages, abstract and some rewriting is needed, nothing major is required. Best of luck to all and especially to those counting down days rather than months.

Thread: Post-PhD tiredness

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13-Aug-16, 06:36
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posted about 5 months ago
Congratulations Eska! Good luck with the applications as well :)

Thread: Divorce and dating after PhD

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31-Jul-16, 11:31
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posted about 6 months ago
Hi Mara,

very sorry to hear about the divorce. Hoping though the loss of your relationship doesn't have too much of a negative impact on how you feel about your recent achievements and life work. I just thought though to comment on your words 'I have learnt my lesson'. Relationships end often through no fault of our own or of the other-they sometimes just end because circumstances change or people change-sometimes nothing that we do or might have done will make them last. Wishing for you that you find someone who celebrates your passion and intellectual rigour and cherishes you for it-with or without a PhD.

And Ganesha and Eska-nice comments :) :)
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