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PhD loans - what do you all think?
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TQ, I haven't worded my post well to be fair.
I didn't mean to talk about personal failure to secure a funded position. I was talking in the context of a post which didn't have funding attached to it in the first place hence the need for a loan.
I think I am happy to stand by that comment but I made a dog's breakfast of my original post.

Dated in Thailand while I was visiting
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
Maybe someone should explain their opinion / view so that jacoblincoln understands why he isn't getting the advice he is asking for. Otherwise not very helpful!


Do you actually believe the original poster is seriously looking for help? :-D
The use of the word "chick" to describe women should be a pretty good giveaway.

PhD loans - what do you all think?
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It's sending a strong message that your research is not valued enough by our society to bother funding.
It's not a great place to start a PhD from.

How much does the PhD interview count in comparison to the application?
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Quote From TreeofLife:
I would agree, it's mostly riding on the interview now ie their perceptions of you. Are you resilient, are you knowledgeable, are you interested, are you capable and do they think you will fit into the research group?

If someone has the worst application, but did the 'best' at interview, I no longer care about the application. If they gave a crap interview but have a great application, they have no chance.

This is the same in any interview in my experience, although there's no 'point scoring' in academia like there is in business. They just give it to who they want to give it to. Doesn't matter, the outcome is the same.


Point scoring is probably just used in larger companies. Smaller companies tend to just hire who they want.
I have several examples of anecdotal evidence of academics interviewing token candidates to tick boxes and then giving the position to the person they wanted at the start. I suppose you will never stop companies hiring the people they want no matter what legislation is in place. On balance companies probably should be allowed to hire whoever they want for whatever reason.

Dated in Thailand while I was visiting
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Quote From TreeofLife:
Not sure where to start with this...


I do but I am pretty sire I would be banned from the site for posting it.
Shame. It was a hilarious response too. :-D

PhD loans - what do you all think?
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If you are prepared to stay away from city centres and London, don't have a car, have no dependents or debtand are prepared to flat share, it is absolutely possible to live very comfortably on less than £10k per year.

£25k would give you about 60% of that so you'd need a part time job as well.
Honestly, if you can't get full funding for your PhD you really need to take a step back and listen to the message the system is telling you. I would personally never take out a loan or self fund.

Part time PhD hours
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I have to say that it would be a bad idea to do a PhD on top of a part time job never mind a full time job.

During my PhD I easily worked more than 50 hours per week.
It's not just the number of hours though, it's getting contiguous hours to stop yourself spending the next week refreshing your memory of last week's work. Ideas come to you at all hours, not just the weekend or during 9 to 5 and you need to be prepared to drop stuff on a whim. It is all-consuming.

Personally I would recommend full time on the PhD and no outside work or you will struggle to get anywhere.

Leaving a job to do an MSc
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I wouldnt waste any time doing a job I didnt like.
Do the masters if that is what excites you.
Life is too short.

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No idea why this has resurfaced but I have to say I don't know which type pf person I loathe most:

a) Idiots like this academic who spout these crap "jokes".

OR

b) those insufferable PC advocates who seek to control and dictate what people think and say, making endless shrill and tedious demands for absolutely meaningless public apologies in the mistaken belief that they are somehow making a difference to genuine discrimination out there when in fact they are simply making things much worse for real victims. All this shrieking for attention makes it very hard to hear the real victims who need our help.

To PhD or not to PhD?
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A few thoughts here.

It is almost impossible to fail a PhD these days. Pretty much everybody who makes it to the end and submits a thesis will gain the doctorate. These days it is less about demonstrating academic brilliance and more about other skills. With a first class degree you are in a good place to do a PhD. You will face a cliff wall in terms of the step up but you have already demonstrated you can do this at undergraduate level and people who do that have the best chance of succeeding. You will be amongst a great many other students who have a much weaker baseline than you.

You mention your health problems as a reason to go part time but if you additionally work 18 hours a week you are essentially full time anyway. If you can get funding, it might be better to consider full time on the PhD.
If your health problems are mental health problems then I would highly recommend you get that sorted before starting because your resilience will be tested probably beyond anything you have ever experienced. This forum is full of people who have been broken by the experience going back many years.

Your idea neednt be complex. In fact there are huge advantages in seeking simple solutions. I solved some problems which turned out to be simple which was great, but then i finished with a complex problem which was so difficult to solve that it almost broke me mentally. I have never been so relieved to see something get published and off my desk. Whilst I am glad I did that work, i could have got the PhD without it. Your ideas just have to make enough of a difference to the body of knowledge to be worthy of a PhD. Prospective supervisors will let you know what standard you are at.

As for the PGDE, dont waste your life pursuing something you dont like. Its not worth it. Better to be poor amd happy than well off and dreading waking up each day.

How much does the PhD interview count in comparison to the application?
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I usually assume that if you have made the interview, then you are on a level playing field at that point with everything to play for. Unless there was a tie (there rarely is in practice) you can forget the application process and yor grades now and expect it to be based on the interview.

I would expect the person who performed best at interview will be offered the position.
This is what happens in industry. Of course academia is a law unto itself.

Improving Grades.
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Quote From Kevin1990:
How difficult is it to improve upon bad grades. Currently, I am getting Cs and Bs, I would like As. Am I trapped in school mode by thinking it should only take one semester to get an A?


It depends how far behind you are and also how well you have studied subjects which are pre-requesites for your current modules.

Focussing on grades is, ironically enough, part of a cultural problem we have in the UK.
If you are excited by your subject, keen to learn, prepared to obsessively hunt down answers to everything you don't understand, seek out endless problems to solve and put in the hours, then your grades in exams will be so high you won't need to worry about getting an A because it will happen as a by product of what you are doing, Studying should not be a chore, it should be relatively easy as long as you love what you are doing. You of course need a little bit of ability and sometimes a bit of luck in exams too but the above really is the bare minimum you need. i have not met anyone who was struggling who didn't show deficiency in one of those things I have listed.

As a kid I used to be in your position. I was scoring C grades at best and regularly failing exams. The approach I detailed above changed everything overnight. My subsequent grades topped 80% with many over 90% and I stopped worrying about getting As.

Choicing a School
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
I'm guessing Benton is looking to go to best possible or one of the top ranked unis to get his/her PhD. The quality of the environment he/she chooses will most likely impact on his development during his PhD. That's where I'm coming from here. There is only so much you can progress/do in a given environment, no matter your aptitude.


I absolutely agree with all of that except your last sentence but the uni ranking isn't going to give Benton any of that information.
Not only that, focussing on the ranking of the uni doesn't take into account Benton's ability. Nor does it take into account whether there is a good match between personalities of supervisor and other PhD students. Nor does it indicate the availability of suitable equipment. Worse of all the ranking doesn't give an indication of the likelihood of success at PhD level for the prospective student. Rankings are fools gold in my opinion and best ignored. There are so many other important factors which have a direct impact on the likelihood of success. The highest ranking uni won't guarantee success at PhD level.

I really don't understand this national obsession with league tables and rankings at all.
My strong advice is that Benton should be using better methods to select a supervisor and location for this PhD. Rankings should be at the very bottom of the list of things to consider.

co-authoring yes or no
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It's a total no brainer. Say yes.
You'll get your first authorship in good time.
To remain in academia you'll need publications.
This is a good chance to get a score on the board.
My first paper was 2nd author. A series of 1st author papers followed.
The order is irrelevant.

Choicing a School
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
Well, I guess if they found a list of rankings for their particular field of study it could be helpful.


Don't get me wrong, I am open to persuasion here but I don't see how this could help. In any PhD group, no matter how "prestigious", there will be people who succeed and those who fail. That's why I'm asking why university rankings are relevant.