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Final year support thread
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Quote From chickpea:
I am now in the 'good feedback, no job' club too! Had my first interview for a research post yesterday, and they gave me almost immediate positive feedback, but said they'd decided to employ someone whose previous research was more similar to theirs. I am trying to focus on the 'good feedback' aspect of the experience, but it's also a bit frustrating that they ultimately selected on the basis of information that was on the CV - feel like nothing I could say or do in the interview was going to make any difference!


It could be that they have interviewed 4-6 candidates each of whom has a stronger or weaker match to their research. If you have a weak match then you will always be struggling but remember you will be cheaper.
The interviewer will probably recruit based on skills/experience matching, reputation (if any), whether the candidate is known to them, personality match, enthusiasm and knowledge about the post and finally cost. There will be other things as well but I suspect these are the main things. If yo get interviewed it means you usually have at least a chance. What you need to do is identify what THEY are looking for and demonstrate what you have which matches that. This is especially important if you lack the skills and experience match. It's unlikely going to be down to a pure CV match.

Competition instead of Collaboration
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Quote From Bah:
Thank you so much for all your kind and supportive responses! It feels so GREAT to see there are some people who care about my feelings. I truly appreciate it. To give you some details, we are students in the US and not the UK, so the social setting is mostly racist by nature.


Whoa that is quite a leap! Because it's the US it's mostly racist BY NATURE? You can't talk about racism and then make blanket judgements like that.

Having people who were friends suddenly stop talking to you is unfortunate but in itself isn't proof of racism.

Can you give us some explicit examples where you are clearly experiencing racism? That might help us to understand what you are facing.

Total panic: Am I good enough?
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Our backgrounds are very similar and yes your fears are justified to a great extent. This PhD will probably rule your life for the next few years. Relatively few attempt it but it is that challenge which attracts most of us.
You won't know everything at the start and nobody will expect you to. What you will be expected to do is break down the stuff you want to learn about and get started on your reading and playing around with the tools and things like that. If you are lucky enough to have a break before sarting then use it to read papers and start learning the required maths and programming etc. The sooner you start the better. I started full time learning maths and things like that about 4 months before I began the PhD. Even then it took me four to five months before I could come into the office without feeling like a fraud.
There probably won't be a PhD student that you meet who is truly confident that they are on top of things: beware of those faking it.

The PhD is probably the hardest thing you'll ever do. Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
This will stretch you emotionally to your breaking point. My advice would be to avoid negative people and those whose constant low moods wear out your resilience. You need to find ways to keep your spirits as high as possible because there will be many times when you will want to quit. Some of those times might last months and months.
Good luck.

My university has let me down
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I'm unsure why you think your university is at fault here to be honest.
It sounds like you have submitted your thesis and essentially been told it isn't good enough. You have then re-submitted and have been told it still isn't good enough. At that point I would have expected either a downgrade to a Masters or something or an outrght fail. Instead they have given you another chance to submit for the third time.
Have I understood that properly?
If so, I don't see what your university has done wrong here.

Did nobody write down explicitly what you had to correct in order to pass?

Advice Required! How long should you wait for your PhD result after submitting with minors?
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Sorry to hear this news.

Sounds like your supervisor has been trying to argue this with the examiner and nobody knows how to proceed. This is where the University should have specific guidelines on how to proceed so you know what to do now.

Help in limiting the scope of research ( M.A dissertation)
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Quote From darksider:
Hello,
I'm working on a broad title which is about "Oral Performance". Could you please help me out to narrow down "Oral performance"? so that it won't be broad.


Why don't you tell us exactly what you have tried to do to limit the scope, show us what you came up with, how far you have come etc. and then people might be able to help you more.

Balancing Work, Studies, Family Life, and Enough Sleep
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Quote From Bah:
This is an absolutely new idea to me. I had never looked at it from this angle. He had suggested that he can leave his job and stay home if I really insist on my studies, but I was worried about our expenses. He earns the better income for the family. I was worried about my tuition, as well, if he stayed home! Plus, I would feel guilty for exploiting him if he would do so! I don't know. This looks like a paradox to me. Where is the limit of selfishness and self-devotion?


I'm a little confused here.

In an earlier post you said "Unfortunately, my spouse is not so flexible and believes that family should be my first priority. He wasn't happy with my decision to start studying at the doctoral level."

Your post above now indicates he has suggested quitting his job for your studies.

Has he changed his mind? If so that's great.

Either way, this can only be resolved between you and your husband and if you are BOTH happy about the arrangement then that is your affair.

In my opinion there is no good reason why both you and your husband can't get something out of this. You should be able to have your studies and he can keep his job.
You will simply need to find a place where you can both have this. The 12 year old child confuses me as well. At that age it doesn't need someone to give up their job. They should be pretty independent at that age as I've said before. They can see plenty of you at night and at the weekend but this needs to be your call.

As a final point I will say this. If your husband insists that you have to sacrifice for your child then I don't see any solution for you at all with regards your studies. If either of you are insistent that a 12 year old child needs you to give up your job then there is no solution either.
In the above situation, I would say you will simply need to wait until your child reaches an age where you believe he can look after himself. You'd need to make a decision about what age that would be.

Balancing Work, Studies, Family Life, and Enough Sleep
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Quote From TreeofLife:
Sounds like manipulation to me: a nice guilt trip. What are you supposed to do, wait until they leave home? But maybe they need your support in case they need anything whilst they are at uni, so no PhD for you then. And then they might have kids of their own and then your time will be allocated for that and it may just go on forever...


Yeah I have to agree with this. It sounds depressingly like manipulation.
Bah is also defending him in a way that suggests denial so at this point I will walk away from the discussion because there is literally nothing I can think of doing to help people who get themselves into this situation. My previous advice stands. There is nothing complicated about this situation. A dominant husband is putting his own career before his wife's and is guilting her out with tales of woe about the effect on her kids if she goes against his wishes. In 2016! Unbelievable. I would never treat my wife this way and if I was THAT worried about my kids I would at least consider walking away from my own job.

Should I quit my PhD? And for what reason?
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I think you already know the answer to your question.
For what it is worth, you dont need a PhD to work in engineering.
I am also not really sure why it is embarassing to ditch a job you clearly hate for any reason including for a relationship.
You already know what to do by the sounds of it.
No way should anyone waste 3 to 4 years just to get some letters after your name.
You can acomplish a lot more doing what you enjoy.

One and half year after Phd
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Quote From emaa:
Hi there,

I defended my Phd thesis in refugee law in May 2015 and successfully passed with high grades. I published my thesis as a book with a famous publisher in June 2016. Since then I haven't do anything. I have 3 years old twins who take all my time and energy. I am happy to be with them during their early childhood but what about my Phd? I haven't applied to any job for many reasons. English is not my mother tongue. I did my Phd and defended it in English but I am still not fluent. I don't have confident to do an interview in English. The kindergarten system in the country where I live is bad. My kids have been accepted only for 3 days a week and only 4 hours each day. There is private kindergarten but very expensive. We are supposed to move to our country next year because of my husband's work. Now, I have two possible options: 1. move with him to our country and try to find a job there. 2. Apply for a postdoc and stay in Europe with my kids. The two options are not easy.


It is always tricky to balance parenthood with work. You need a supportive spouse, partner or family network behind you to give you the best chance of getting into work. You need to work out what you are prepared to compromise on and what you are prepared to sacrifice. There is no alternative but to talk with your husband about this. Either way it doesnt sound like moving to your country is going to give you what you need. I am assuming you already have spoken to him?

Advice Required! How long should you wait for your PhD result after submitting with minors?
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Quote From anz07:
Quote From timefortea:
Hello anz07 - hope you have heard something by now. I got my examiners' report (passed with minor corrections) through today and it actually says on it that the university will inform the student if the corrections have been accepted within 3 weeks of submission - do you have anything in writing?


Hi timefortea, congratulations on passing with minor corrections! You must be thrilled! I hope you are enjoying some well deserved celebrations :)

Unfortunately I still haven't heard anything. I wrote to the administrator who is overseeing my PhD a week ago but haven't had a reply. I can only assume she is following up with my examiner. My report doesn't give an official turnaround time for my revisions to be marked within and and the postgraduate office confirmed that the examiner can take as long as they want to read through my revisions so I'm completely screwed on that front.

I have a feeling that I won't hear anything this side of Christmas now. The general advice from fellow academics is to chase things up and create a storm about it. The advice from my family, however, is to steer clear of being too pushy. They've seen how badly I've been treated by the university and know that agitating the administration team or my examiner probably won't bode well for me.

I'm just so fed up with waiting now. I feel like I'll never (ever, ever) simply receive an email saying that my revisions have been approved and that my PhD is finally over. I'm just busying myself with my job - if I didn't have that I think I'd be going insane!

In this instance I would probably go with your fellow academics advice providing they are permanent members of staff experienced in this sort of thing. There is a fine line between being pushy and allowing others to simply walk right over you. Not responding to emails is unprofessional and unacceptable.

Messed up already
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Quote From Selkie:
Hi everyone,

Feeling embarrassed and disheartened as I'm seven months into my PhD and behind already.

The original project plan I submitted had two stages: one year data analysis and then field work starting part way through the second year. So I've been focusing on the data analysis, getting the skills for that, and this is mainly what I've been discussing with my supervisor. The field work has not been without problems: two possible sites, both with pitfalls.

I started at an odd time (April) and didn't have any induction or the usual guidance on how to do a PhD. It's only now that I'm on the September course, and a bit horrified by some of the stuff I didn't know - e.g. exactly what is required for upgrade.

Anyway, I've probably made myself sound like a terrible student, but because all the field work prospects sounded pretty un-feasible, and I genuinely thought I was mainly focusing on the data now (thought it would be my upgrade) I haven't got very far in planning anything. Now upset, my supervisor probably thinks I'm rubbish. But also I wish she'd told me earlier if she had concerns (I've only realised this in the last few weeks). E.g. finally emailed someone about a field site who sounded puzzled not to have heard from me (I suspect he and my supervisor talked about this) but given that my supervisor practically told me I couldn't go there any more.. and now she's wondering why I didn't try and organise things before.. I wish she would consider whether her previous advice might have affected my actions. Perhaps I am just making excuses for myself. I know I'm supposed to be an independent researcher, but what I'm supposed to do has seemed very confusing (more than I can explain here).

Any advice, similar experiences, optimism appreciated.. Please not too much critique - I know a lot of this is my fault!


That last sentence suggests you are too emotionally fragile for your own good. There will plenty of time to wallow in self pity at a later date (and we ALL do it believe me). Right now you need to hold it together and make a recovery plan and work through it methodically. Good luck with this.

Skype interview for international Post-doc
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Quote From Ll2413:
Hi. I recently was invited to a Skype interview for a post-doc (Microbiology) at a major university in the US. The interview took place in a boardroom with about 9 people including the PI, where I presented my research on a PowerPoint (they had already checked my references prior to my interview which they regarded as excellent). The team is fairly interdisciplinary with a keen interest in having a post doc with a strong microbiology background. I have about 6 months before I submit my PhD. During the interview I was able to answer every question that was posed and did appear to impress them when asked what my contribution to their work would be. They then said that they have been looking for someone with my skills for a while now. They then spoke amongst each other about bringing me there before my PhD was awarded or even before my oral defence ( I could then fly back and have it) and hire me as a research assistant until my PhD was officially awarded. They then had the administrative assistant ask me about when I'm going to finish, with the main interviewer saying ' we don't need to do anything yet as there is still time before he completes' We then closed the conversation, suggesting they still needed to deliberate. I sent an email a day later ( asking when I should hear back) and got a very nice response saying it was nice to talk to me and that everyone enjoyed my presentation. They were going to discuss my case and get back to me ( only the administrative assistant was cc'd onto the email).

Does this sound promising in terms of a potential post doc offer?


In my experience I have been offered jobs over the years where the interview went like yours and I have had instances where I didnt hear from them again. Equally I have had plenty of offers when the interview seemed to go horribly. I would echo the advice above. Forget about this job now and knuckle down and finish your PhD. Let events progress at their own pace. Good luck.

Quitting the PhD at the Final Hurdle
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Quote From jonnyk9:
Thanks everyone for your help. I shared the same concerns with some of my friends and they all said the same thing - that by putting in this last push of effort I'd be doing myself a huge favor in the long term. I also voiced my concerns with the supervisor who's been massively supportive and agreed to put in extra reading support if I need it.

So I'm gonna give it my best and complete it, thanks again everyone.

Jonny


Good luck. This has to be the right decision given how close you are to the end.
It is worth remembering that very few people achieve this level.
Even if you never end up using what you have done directly, it is worth remembering that you made it when most others dont even attempt it.

Competition instead of Collaboration
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Quote From Nesrine87:
Hi Bah,

I'm the OP of the thread linked by Tudor_Queen.

I don't know if this will be helpful but I'll give you an update to my situation. Long story short, it has improved. I took the advice of those who responded to me and decided to stop wasting my time with people who were rude/competitive/unresponsive. I spend time with my husband, keep up with 'pre-PhD' friends around the UK and see two other PhD students for drinks from time to time, where we complain about other people in the department :)

It will take some time but hopefully you will find one or two people (you don't need more than that) who are on your wavelength. It's definitely easier said than done but try to remember that you got accepted for the programme, so you have no reason to feel inferior. It's tough but you'll get there. If you are a bit older than the average PhD student, maybe there's a club for mature students? Or look outside the uni for hobby clubs or sports that interest you and meet people that way. It's good to get out the PhD bubble especially if you're feeling anxious or upset.

Good luck!


Yep this is what worked for me too. At first you feel upset at what is a staggering and blatant level of ageism from many young people. You then find one or two who are not essentially children and who can hold an adult conversation with a person 20 years older than them for more than 10 minutes without freaking out. Then you stop caring about the others. Some of them will eventually see that you are actually a human being and might try to engage with you. Its then up to you whether to bother with them again. Besides as I have said on another thread, life is too busy for me now with the PhD, family and a couple of friends to worry about these types of people.