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How to prepare a thesis for viva
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Hi Liminalplace, I'm in a similar situation with my viva at the beginning of June. I've decided to go through the thesis and write lots of notes on it - I'm in sciences, so have lots of calculations etc. I feel exactly the same way as you in that I feel I don't know enough, especially about the background to my area and who has done what. But I'm feeling better the more work I do on it, so hopefully will feel better by the viva. I'm just telling myself that I can't be expected to know everything, and if I work hard between now and the viva, there's not much more I can do!

It's going to be really hard to cope with the stress for the next few weeks - I know a lot of people are so relieved after handing in the thesis, but I feel so much worse now that it's handed in!

All the best with your preparation :)

I have summited!
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Congratulations! I'm hoping to submit soon, maybe tomorrow once I've re-read the thesis! Hope you're having a well-earned rest 8-)

How long does a PhD take?
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Quote From Juc:

Thanks for your reply. In my case I do have a head start as the proposed subject continues from my MA and so I will have done a lot of relevant reading before starting the PhD. I realise that things can go awry so I was just asking about the best possible scenario - whether the best scenario transpires is of course a different matter. I guess I am an optimist and would definitely not want to go beyond 3 years. When people drift into a fourth year does this mean paying more fees?

Thanks


Don't know about fees as I don't pay any, but most funding only lasts for 3, maybe 3.5 years, so you won't receive any after that.

etiquette question
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Oh I totally agree - I can't stand the sound of people eating when I'm not. Apples and crisps are the worst. I'm sure they're not overly noisy at all, but it's just that I can hear it when the office is quiet and it really makes me cringe! :-) And folk slurping coffee or tea really gets me too - do they really need to?!!

Things to do or avoid for thesis submission?
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I definitely agree with yellowtreble in getting someone other than your supervisor to read it. Even though I've read mine over and over, it's amazing what a fresh pair of eyes can pick up. Even someone who doesn't have much knowledge of what you're doing can spot things that are really obvious, but much harder to spot when you're reading the wretched thing for the umpteenth time!

Getting a Mortgage 2010 on a PhD Bursary
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It can be done, even on your own - I got a guarantor mortgage with my dad as 'backup'. They wouldn't have accepted me on my own as PhD funding is obviously finite!

best use of easter weekend: questionaire
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Why not combine all the options - do the DIY while eating chocolate and thinking about the PhD piece. Not quite sure how you'd fit in the marking though :p

Passed viva - wahoo!
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Many many congratulations Bilbo. Your posts are an inspiration and I'm sure help us all to realise that it can be done, no matter what! Relax and enjoy the celebrations!! 8-)

How many job applications till you got the job?
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I've applied for probably over 20 non-academic jobs, only had 4 interviews and haven't got any of them. I think a lot of companies tend to advertise jobs but can't actually afford to take anyone on. My other suspicion is that a PhD may be a slight disadvantage - they probably think that us postgrads are incredibly geeky and have no life!!

Feeling blue :(
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Hi Sue, it's good to hear the last few months aren't always easy! That's a good idea to sit down and have a talk with my supervisor and draw up some sort of a timeline. Maybe if she has something concrete written down on paper, it will spur her on!

Good luck with your writing too :)


Quote From Sue2604:

Hi Squiggles

I also have just a few months to go, and finding these last few months the most difficult and the most emotional, even with a good supervisor. It is really hard, and you sound like you're doing really well, despite a lack of support and feedback!!

If I was you, I would do a detailed time line and plan and discuss it with your sup and get her to commit to reading your work and giving you feedback. I would structure it so that for example, in a months time, you give her all your data chapters and then give her a month to give you feedback. Then in 3 months time, build in that you're going to give her the complete draft and expect comments back in a mth etc etc Sit down and talk to her, ask if she can give you feedback on that work in that timeframe, ask what else she's got on. Do that for the whole thesis over the next 6 mths. Also do this for your second sup, if you want their comments too - in fact, if they could comment as well, it might show her up a bit. If she has a plan and knows that you're expecting work back, this may prompt her. Build in as well things she has to do eg doing whatever admins necessary. Be practical, and meet with both of them.

Don't cry!! This will pass, she just needs a push. You're doing really well, keep going. It will be over soon. Make sure you take breaks too, catch up with friends, and have time off - it's really important so we don't burn out.

Feeling blue :(
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Thanks everyone, I know I'm almost there, but having a disorganised, disinterested sup is so difficult sometimes! In one sense, it's actually good to be allowed to do what I like in a way, and structure the thesis exactly as I want to, without having someone giving me advice and changing things. My problem is that I hear about so many other sups who do so much for their students and practically write the thesis for them! (not quite, but the input they get seems to be rather OTT). At least those of us who have sups who couldn't care less know that what we've written is all our own work and we worked really really hard to achieve it!

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Feeling blue :(
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Hi guys
Just on here for a bit of a moan really. I've got to submit in less than 6 months, have run out of funding, and just feel really depressed by the whole thing. My supervisor's never been great - very approachable but scatterbrained to say the least and at most of our meetings, has only a vague idea of what I'm talking about because she hasn't bothered to read what I've written. We go from one meeting to the next without any thought from her whatsoever and it feels like we're always covering old ground and never getting anywhere. I've written the majority of my thesis, just one part at the end is troubling me at the moment. My sup has 'read' some of it, but I'm sure she only skims it as she never has much to say about it. And she only reads it after being reminded again and again.
I almost lost it a few weeks ago as she was giving me no sensible advice at all, so I spent most of our meeting sitting in silence and then walked out, close to tears. I don't want to fall out with her as I know that's not a good way to go, but at the same time, I'd really like to stand up to her and say what I think, that I'm so near the end and wish she'd take more of an interest and actually be involved in what I'm doing. I did go and speak to my second sup after that meeting, but all he could really do was reassure me and have a quiet word with my sup to see how things were going.
I apologise for the long rant - I've posted my thoughts on my supervisor here before, and I've never really been happy with her. I've tried to ask for another sup as well as my current one, but this didn't go down too well - I'm sure her colleagues know fine well what she's like but don't want to admit it.
I know part of it's down to me - I have a severe lack of confidence in myself and have always felt like this. I think doing the PhD has just made that worse - I keep wishing I'd chosen a different area or a different subject altogether. I'm also worried about not finding a job - academia's not an option, but I've been for a few interviews for non-academic jobs, and my shyness and lack of confidence really lets me down. So I think all my worries are just getting on top of me - I've just been crying quietly to myself in the library :-(

Anyway, sorry for the long drawn out posting...just wanted to share my frustrations!!

What subject areas are others working in
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Quote From mathkitty:

maths. algebra/number theory sort of stuff.


:-) Me too. But not the algebra/number theory part!!

time is up, money is dowwwwn - argh!
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Good luck - I'm sure you can do it! I'm also funding-less :(

What subject areas are others working in
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Maths. And kind of regretting it now :(