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Thread: Cost of PhD

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25-Nov-16, 10:59
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Thanks all. That helps. Will discuss.

Thread: Cost of PhD

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25-Nov-16, 09:18
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Another thought: what if you need to travel for other reasons, for example to use technical equipment elsewhere, to learn a certain technique from someone, etc? I suppose there's usually also a pot of money for those things? A one month stay in for example Oslo or Tel Aviv is not cheap. Visa costs?

Thread: Cost of PhD

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24-Nov-16, 22:55
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Good advise, thanks a lot. I'll certainly be able to visit conferences. I have a supervisor who insists on it and makes sure there's funding. Plus, as it's industry funded I'll get a nice, intercontinental trip to those that pay each year that I could combine with a vacation on a nice beach.

Yea, normal living costs might be an issue indeed. I know the UK is expensive as I'm living there already. I checked my spending over the last few months just to see how I'm doing. I should be able to get a 1-2 bed flat for 500-550 pounds plus bills if I search a bit. Will have to make sure it's not a free-standing house as my current one. Three outside walls are terrible in winter! My groceries will probably be around 100 pounds, including lots of fresh produce and the odd bit of organic meat. Offal is also really cheap if you really want organic meat and don't mind trying something different. Actually, I've never lived in a country where I could get such good quality and choice of produce for so little. Plus it's always nice to have Aldi and Lidl nearby of course :D My car is also dead cheap and for now I'm not parting with it. At the moment my guess is that I'll be able to have some money left at the end of the month. Helps if you're not into into going to pubs but prefer outdoorsy hobbies that only require a way to get there and are otherwise free. Phew.. exciting!

Thread: Cost of PhD

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24-Nov-16, 19:53
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The uni has stationary which I can raid when I need it. Printing costs are zero too. I am working in science so I don't generally have any need to buy other than a couple of books for the PhD - most of it is journal papers. I avoid general conferences and "general networking opportunities" like the plague and can't think of a worse waste of my time. I bought a laptop to allow me to work from home. Other than that, there are no other obvious costs I can think of.


Great! One thing I'm just thinking of: professional memberships. I suppose a faculty does not pay for those, right? The most important society is 41 GBP per year for PhD students :( and the other important one is 25. Both have very interesting lectures and events either in town or a town further up.

Thread: Cost of PhD

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24-Nov-16, 16:41
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Cost of food and transport will vary with country, and even city. My uni had a guide to costs in its given city.


Cheers. I haven't found anything on that to be honest. Might not be on the website thought.

Thread: Maintenance funding for European student for a PhD in the UK

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24-Nov-16, 16:38
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I know what you mean with needing to be resident for 3 years. I ran into the same problem and could not take on a couple of very interesting projects due to that. :( Actually, some profs told me right out that they'd not accept me due to that as they'd rather have someone who can work on the PhD rather than go hunting for funding. It's a real shame.

In the end I was offered two PhDs with industry funding, one of which in the UK. I'm still waiting for the outcome of the third application I sent out. Also funded, but better :)

If you can find a project that is funded by anything but the research council then go for it. Otherwise it might be a good idea to look elsewhere. Netherlands pay a proper salary for PhDs, Germany in some cases as well. Scandinavia looks quite ok as well.

Thread: Cost of PhD

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24-Nov-16, 16:32
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Note: UK uni.

Thanks. Good to hear. I might need to get my hands on a couple of books I suppose, unless I can get them from the library for long enough. Phew, then my budget does look good.


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Stationary is provided by department for free, I've only ever used 2 or 3 books which I got from the library or my supervisor, conference costs including food and transport were covered by supervisor, university or from applying to travel grants from societies... so in short, no extra costs for the PhD were ever borne by me.

In some cases students have had to pay to print their theses, but mine were paid for by supervisor.

Oh, maybe graduation? Hire of gowns and the like. I did have to pay for that.

Thread: Cost of PhD

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24-Nov-16, 16:14
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Right, lets talk money. What are the costs of a PhD? I don't mean enrolment fees or living costs but everything else you'd not have to pay if you were not doing it? I'm thinking about stationary, books and other things. What about costs associated with visiting conferences? Ok, flight and travel is covered, but what about food (might be more expensive than at home), transport and the likes? My budget for the PhD is fairly tight but doable. It's just the unplanned costs I'm not sure about.

Thread: Lodging for dummies

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19-Nov-16, 13:58
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Ok, this is a really stupid question. For the PhD I'll most likely chose to do I'll need to move 6hrs away. I'm fairly picky with what I'd like to rent (been out of uni for a while) and will need to go lodging/flat sharing for a while before I can rent what I want. I've never been a lodger before, thus I have no idea how this works. Can anyone help?

Being 6h away from that town makes finding a room to rent somewhat complicated, though I'll be there for a week in early December. Would like to move just before Christmas. Is this sufficient with regards to timing?

What kind of termination periods do lodging/flat sharing contracts usually have? I'll move out as soon as I find the right place to rent. This could be in 3 weeks (unlikely) or in 2-3 months.

What's the best place to look for lodgings? I'd certainly not want to get a room in a student house but, being somewhat older myself with elder, quiet people.

Thread: Oh gosh.. I'm going for it!

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19-Nov-16, 13:53
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I'm a bit nervous. I now have two offers on the table for PhDs in two countries. Both with industry funding. For the last one, in Germany with 75% civil service salary I'll get an answer next week. And now I'm getting cold feet.

The two I find most interesting, the one in Germany and another one involve some knowledge on programming and will involve using simulator software whose background consists of more differential equations that I've ever seen anywhere. Basically, I understand nothing of this and I'm not quite sure I ever will. Are these thoughts normal before you start out?

Thread: Negotiate stipend?

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18-Oct-16, 14:40
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I don't think the research council stipend can be increased. But there's no harm in asking I suppose.


It's not a research council stipend, but industry funded. I suppose the participating universities get a pile of money for all research and divide it up into projects, conference participtions, etc. The stipend is supposed to be at the same level as a research council stipend. However, the research council website states that the quoted 142xx per year is a minimum. I wonder what that means, and under which circumstances it could be higher in the first place. Considering I'd be replacing a postdoc, there's money to be saved anyway.

Thread: Negotiate stipend?

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18-Oct-16, 13:43
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I've never heard of anyone doing it, hence my answer.

It's not a good idea to get off on the wrong foot with your supervisors, since they have the power to help make or break your future career, and they may not care if you query the stipend, but on the other hand they might. Why would they pay you more when they could pay someone else less? Why give the PhD to the student who queries the money and risk that they query future lab budgets and conference funding?


Because I'm the only candidate, could start tomorrow with what a leaving postdoc left behind, and have a lot of background knowledge already. I could get started much quicker and provide results much quicker. Oh, and I looked into subsets of this specific question before and at least did research into analogues before. Plus, given my experience in managing large projects the risk of the project running in completely the wrong direction is somewhat smaller :) But ok, I get your message.

Thread: Negotiate stipend?

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18-Oct-16, 13:17
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You probably could negotiate it but are you sure you would want to risk alienating your supervisors at this early stage?


I would negotiate for every job, hence my question whether this is possible or generally not done.

Thread: Possible to finish in 3 years?

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18-Oct-16, 10:46
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Another question: If you're good at managing complex projects, have a lot of discipline and have no obligation to obtain any credits or take part in any other uni courses, how realistic do you think is it to completely finish a PhD in 3 years? As a fresh graduate I'd never considered this possible, but with a few years of work experience and working on complex, long projects I do wonder whether it would be possible. What if you earn a bit of extra cash through tutorials and the likes? After all, this time comes off your research time.

Thread: Negotiate stipend?

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18-Oct-16, 10:41
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The PhD project I've been looking at has an industry-funded stipend attached to it. The project falls under a big research group that is fully funded by some multinationals. There are quite a few PhD projects running under that group, all of them multidisciplinary, all very exciting. I wonder whether under these circumstances it is possible to negotiate about the stipend, or whether the research council minimum stipend is what I need to accept?

Thanks a lot.
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