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Thread: The Postgraduate Moans Thread

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10-Jan-17, 22:04
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posted about 9 months ago
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Hi, just wanted to have a moan about the job market out there! I think I'm ready to give up! Sod jobs :(


I am right there with you Hugh, I just applied to three, applied about about 10 in total since my funding ended. I get shortlisted fairly often but never get the post :( Has something in particular happened or is there nothing suitable available?

Thread: How long did it take for your supervisor to read your draft?

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11-Dec-16, 22:59
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posted about 10 months ago
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My supervisor never read mine either. She told me that 'supervisors don't read the thesis' - which didn't sound right to me, but I wasn't confident enough of that to argue on the spot (actually was so confused and embarrassed that I think I actually apologised for assuming she would).


Oh my goodness! Then WHAT does she think supervisors do!? Mine likes to make it clear that my thesis is pretty low on their list of priorities.

Hugh- I was wondering how you were getting on...so did they just return it to you with only 3 chapters read? I'm so angry for you :(

Thread: How long did it take for your supervisor to read your draft?

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11-Dec-16, 08:48
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Sorry to hear that, Zutterfly. Are you working to a particular hand-in date, i.e. do your supervisors have an idea of the overall timescale? I'm seeing mine soon to talk about a timeline from now on in, which I'm hoping will help as we'll all be aware of an 'end date' for the whole thing.


Hi Chickpea, Yes it was supposed to be officially submitted in November. I handed it to my sup in enough time for this, I just feel like I am being held back now.

Muspectrum- oh my goodness, that is terrible! Did he not give any explanation as to why he did not read it? I feel angry for you, I would have found it hard to hold my tongue in that situation.

Thread: How long did it take for your supervisor to read your draft?

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10-Dec-16, 19:40
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Thank you for your response pm133.

Yes I have been waiting about 5 weeks now, I just get told that they haven't had time to read it yet but it is frustrating.

Thread: How long did it take for your supervisor to read your draft?

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10-Dec-16, 08:47
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Just wanting to hear everyone's experiences (for those who are nearing the end or have finished) on how long your supervisor took to get your full draft back to you with feedback? I have been waiting quite a while, but this may be the norm(?)

Thread: Final year support thread

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08-Dec-16, 08:34
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Hugh & Chickpea- I agreed to talk about my research next week at a sort of mini conference within my uni, but I have not even started making the presentation or anything yet, I just cannot be bothered looking at it, so I understand how you feel!

At the moment I have been busy doing casual RA work for another institution which is quite nice as I am analysing data that is nothing to do with my PhD. I have secured a second teaching job from January and have agreed to do more RA work on a casual basis until I can find something full-time. My thesis is still with my supervisor after a month- they haven't read it yet.

Thread: Final year support thread

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24-Nov-16, 17:21
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Well done teegs! I hope you are planning on having a well deserved rest now?

I for one am still waiting for my sup to read mine, though I have only been waiting two weeks or so. It's nice that I don't have to think about it at the moment!

I have started only applying for jobs that I am super keen on. I have had quite a bit of casual work sent my way which means I have essentially been working full time this week and more of the same over the coming weeks then other stuff set up for the new year. So, I am not applying for jobs out of panic like I was before- I was recently invited to an interview for a job I was not that fussed about and would cost hundreds in travel per month and I have decided not to go to it (the travel costs would leave me with little left over).

Hope the local job market picks up a bit in 2017!

Thread: Final year support thread

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22-Nov-16, 12:47
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Well done litphdgirl! Enjoy your time off over Christmas, you deserve it :)

Hugh- This is my plan too, I think the job market is particularly dead on the run up to Christmas so I think (hope) there is more work available in the new year.

Thread: Final year support thread

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22-Nov-16, 07:46
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Hugh- that's great, what will you be doing? :) Only a couple of mine are confirmed at the moment but fingers crossed after some meetings this week I should have a few more temporary roles.

Chickpea- That sounds like a good idea, it will get you back into the swing of employment :) If you don't mind me asking, what field is your old job in?

Thread: Final year support thread

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20-Nov-16, 19:19
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I know and to make matters worse, that was my first formal job interview in 6 years! So, I was already very nervous beforehand, I was relieved when it was over and really did not want the job after what I witnessed during the interview.

I had another job interview one week later and that was much easier- pleasant panel, positive body language. They were all so enthusiastic about everything I said and it was a punch to the gut when I didn't get that one, but like you Chickpea, they said they have another post coming up and asked me to apply for that one but I need to find something soon. We can't just wait around!

I applied to two this week, but realised after applying for one that the travel costs would take up the majority of my wage and not leave enough for rent/bills (there is nothing locally). Train fares are so ridiculously expensive, even with a season ticket.

I am having some informal meetings this week about casual teaching across a few different institutions starting next semester- should hopefully buy me some time to put in more job applications for something more secure rather than bits and pieces of income from different places on zero hours contracts.

Thread: Final year support thread

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20-Nov-16, 00:55
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I am now in the 'good feedback, no job' club too! Had my first interview for a research post yesterday, and they gave me almost immediate positive feedback, but said they'd decided to employ someone whose previous research was more similar to theirs. I am trying to focus on the 'good feedback' aspect of the experience, but it's also a bit frustrating that they ultimately selected on the basis of information that was on the CV - feel like nothing I could say or do in the interview was going to make any difference!


This infuriates me too Chickpea. One interview I had a few weeks ago was similar. It was for a teaching position (teaching academic skills to undergrads) and this is something I have done as part of other modules I have taught, but have never taught 'academic skills' as a stand alone thing. During the interview, I provided examples from modules I have taught where I have specifically helped students develop an academic skill- all entirely relevant to the questions. One of the panel interrupted me when I started an answer with 'when I was teaching x module at x university, I supported students with...' she jumped in 'NO, I meant when you have ONLY taught academic skills' (?) I was quite taken back and another panel member told me to continue with my answer. THEN later in the interview, I began answering a question from another panel member in a similar way (referring to a module that was not 'academic skills' but included this within it) and the same panel member who interrupted me tutted (yes tutted!) and sighed.

Obviously, this was very rude in itself, but I mean it was like they had not even looked at my CV. Within ten mins of that interview, I just wanted to leave as it became clear we were wasting each others time and I wasted a lot of money travelling to it.

Thread: Final year support thread

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17-Nov-16, 13:17
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posted about 11 months ago
I have not used a proof reader for my thesis yet Hugh but I have used the one I will be using for this in the past for another piece of writing. She did just that- put any changes in MS word track changes leaving me to approve each amendment.

Thread: The Postgraduate Moans Thread

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17-Nov-16, 13:12
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posted about 11 months ago
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Feel like having a rant. A huge rant. I am leaving academia for good. Can't wait to get out.


What has happened Hugh? PM me if you like. Rant away :)

Thread: Final year support thread

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16-Nov-16, 10:19
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I wouldn't mind leaving academia, I just don't know what industry I could work in :/ I have been keeping an eye out for research jobs in the NHS and also work in charities but aside from that I am quite confused on where my skills would be applicable. I am even applying for admin jobs but there is the issue of not having much previous admin experience.

Everywhere seems to want someone who can do the job with no training at all :(

On the plus side, I secured some casual teaching work which starts after Christmas for a few months, so this should keep me going for a bit :)

Thread: Final year support thread

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15-Nov-16, 08:11
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That's amazing teegs!! Well done :D

I agree with you Hugh in that, it probably won't sink in until after a successful viva as the submission process is just stretched out so much. When I handed my draft in, students who are in their first and second year were all asking if I felt nervous for viva...well, no because I have no idea when it will be and also, I feel like finding work is more pressing at the moment- it won't feel real until I have that viva date set!
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