Phd Search

posted
19-Apr-15, 14:24
by Dunham
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posted about 5 years ago
Hey guys,

I am a german student currently searching for a phd position in UK starting in october 2015. So far, I could not really find any position that is actually open for non-UK residents (searching in agriculture). You can often apply for the position as a EU citizen but you won't get the full funding (just tuition fees), which makes it somehow "useless" as most of the students do not have their own funding. Do I understand that right?
If so, can you recommend any other ways to find advertised positions that are fully accessible to EU citizens, any scholarships you can apply for or is an unsolicited application the only way as a non-UK resident?

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice :)
posted
20-Apr-15, 16:58
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posted about 5 years ago
I thought EU citizens got the same funding? The ones in my lab do. Link to the position and I can check?
posted
20-Apr-15, 19:11
by Dunham
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posted about 5 years ago
Maybe I misunderstand it but most of the advertised positions (with the europe symbol) I am interested in have the same or a similar remark :

"To be eligible for a full award (Tuition fees and Stipend) students must meet the residency criteria set by the funder."

Residency criteria are usually at least 3 years of residence in the UK, which makes it impossible to meet the criteria if you did not study in UK or stayed there for such a long period for any other reason.

For example :
Just wanted to know if that is the case (then I can stop looking for Phd ads here ;) ) or if I understand something wrong. I also don't know if there are maybe other possibilities to receive funding. I just don't want to waste my time on applications for positions that are interesting but in the end not an option, as I couldn't make a living.
posted
21-Apr-15, 11:52
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posted about 5 years ago
It says this:

PhD Funding Status Funded PhD Project (European/UK Students Only)

This research project has funding attached. Funding for this project is available to citizens of a number of European countries (including the UK). In most cases this will include all EU nationals. However full funding may not be available to all applicants and you should read the full department and project details for further information.

Which seems like you can get it, but then on their website it says:

Eligibility rules for Research Council postgraduate funding.
Residence requirements:
To be eligible for a full award (Tuition fees and Stipend) a student must have:

Settled status in the UK, meaning they have no restrictions on how long then can stay and
Been 'ordinarily resident' in the UK for 3 years prior to the start of the studentship. This means they must have been normally residing in the UK (apart from temporary or occasional absences) and
Not been residing in the UK wholly or mainly for the purpose of full-time education. (This does not apply to UK or EU nationals).

To be eligible for a tuition fees only award:

Students from EU countries other than the UK are generally eligible for a fees-only award. To be eligible for a fees-only award, a student must be ordinarily resident in a member state of the EU, in the same was as UK students must be ordinarily resident in the UK.

It does seem strange, but maybe this is what all BBSRC funded projects have. Maybe email the supervisor for the project and see what he says?

Does anyone else know?
posted
21-Apr-15, 12:35
edited about 28 seconds later
by Mark_B
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posted about 5 years ago
My understanding is that EU law prevents citizens of other member states being discriminated against for public funding. However, it is possible to limit that funding to the project itself and not provide a maintenance stipend.
posted
21-Apr-15, 13:28
edited about 16 seconds later
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posted about 5 years ago
Quote From Mark_B:
My understanding is that EU law prevents citizens of other member states being discriminated against for public funding. However, it is possible to limit that funding to the project itself and not provide a maintenance stipend.


Seems like that's what they have done for this then.
posted
21-Apr-15, 13:58
edited about 29 seconds later
by Dunham
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posted about 5 years ago
A lot of these advertised positions included a collaboration with a company (quite common in agriculture) so maybe that is a different case and it's allowed to restrict it to more specific residential criteria. Thanks for the clarification. I guess I'll try unsoliticed applications then...

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