Final year support thread

posted
18-Apr-16, 12:57
by Hugh
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posted about 4 years ago
Quote From SarahSarahSarah:
Would like to join this thread..... since I'm in my last year too. I have not started writing my thesis yet. PhD requirements in my country are 4 articles published in international journals (1 or 2 are allowed to be only submitted or in press). Each article will be one chapter in the thesis, so I haven't started writing, but those chapters will be finished once my articles are out.

I have submitted two now and the third is in preparation for submission, so I guess I am on track, but it is a tough time to get it all done in time.

And this week I am also suffering from procrastination


Welcome Sarah :)

It sounds like you are making wonderful progress, well done! Do you have a plan in place for this final year with deadlines?

I find deadlines motivating. As well as promising myself a treat :)
posted
18-Apr-16, 16:06
by Hugh
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posted about 4 years ago
I've just started a separate thread on what to place in the overall discussion chapter as I'm a bit stuck, would appreciate your input please :) http://www.postgraduateforum.com/thread-45183
posted
18-Apr-16, 21:01
edited about 13 seconds later
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posted about 4 years ago
Quote From SarahSarahSarah:
Would like to join this thread..... since I'm in my last year too. I have not started writing my thesis yet. PhD requirements in my country are 4 articles published in international journals (1 or 2 are allowed to be only submitted or in press). Each article will be one chapter in the thesis, so I haven't started writing, but those chapters will be finished once my articles are out.

I have submitted two now and the third is in preparation for submission, so I guess I am on track, but it is a tough time to get it all done in time.

And this week I am also suffering from procrastination


That sounds like quite a challenge, Sarah - you'll be hoping the journals reply quickly! Sounds like you are right on track with the writing of the articles though.
posted
19-Apr-16, 22:14
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by Shmanna
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posted about 4 years ago
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posted
21-Apr-16, 10:38
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by Hugh
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posted about 4 years ago
Hi,

How are you all doing/progressing? I've finished writing up the chapter (finally!), but need to edit it, which is the stage I struggle with the most. It is not the hardest stage by far, but its the stage that I procrastinate the most in, because I find editing boring and monotonous. Also, every time I go through it, I always spot errors. Its hard to reach perfection.

Any suggestions/advice for editing?
posted
21-Apr-16, 14:10
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posted about 4 years ago
Well done Hugh! I set myself the deadline of 30th April for this chapter but it has taken a lot of extra reading to write, so it is taking longer than I expected so I am thinking I need to give myself an extra week. I have also discovered something that may make the rest of my PhD journey difficult...my body can't seem to handle coffee anymore :o I had my usual 2 cups this morning then I had to lay down for two hours due to some intense nausea. So, today has not been productive so far.

I do what I refer to as 'combing' for editing. I go through and highlight sentences, paragraphs etc. I would like to edit which then means I can just jump through the document to each 'item' that needs reworking. I then 'comb' through and edit each one (removing the highlight upon completion of each one) but skip ones that I really cannot be bothered to do at that moment. I then 'comb' through again and address the areas a bit later that I avoided doing earlier. I then give everything a final proof read a couple of times. I hope this helps!
posted
21-Apr-16, 14:24
by Hugh
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posted about 4 years ago
Zutterfly, thanks for sharing your method. I'm going to try it.

Best of luck with your chapter, don't worry, you'd rather take longer and get it perfectly right, than have to come back to it and make substantial changes. I have a feeling my discussion is going to need re-writing. I am however looking forward to moving onto the other chapters.

Oh no, really sorry to hear about your coffee! Would another drink work? Maybe hot chocolate?
posted
21-Apr-16, 14:40
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posted about 4 years ago
I've given myself a longer deadline for the chapter I'm working on, Zutterfly, because it is a big chapter and needs a lot of work and I just want to go about it in a sensible way. I felt instantly less stressed when I shifted the deadline, so I think it was the right thing to do!

I drink loads of herbal teas these days, which I'm sure makes me not a legitimate PhD student at all, but I can't tolerate coffee any more.

Hugh, I think I always underestimate how long editing is going to take - I always think 'I've got lots written for this chapter' and then the editing takes way longer than the writing ever did! I like Zutterfly's 'combing' idea though, will give that a try.
posted
21-Apr-16, 14:46
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posted about 4 years ago
You're welcome Hugh, and I agree with you both Hugh and Chickpea regarding taking a bit longer to avoid difficulties later on. I had to tap into a whole area of literature that I had not previously considered which took a few weeks to accomplish.

Hot chocolate makes me quite sleepy so I am not sure that will cut it haha though I do have a lot of herbal teas in the cupboard Chickpea so I think I shall go and make a cup. I do like lemon and ginger tea!

I am having to juggle my writing time as I have a paper to write for an upcoming conference which is stressing me out a bit actually, but I am sure I will survive.
posted
22-Apr-16, 20:57
by Hugh
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posted about 4 years ago
Zutterfly, good luck with your paper! I'm trying to avoid doing anything extra other than the thesis, though times it is a refreshing change.

I've found another method of editing, and that is reading the chapter on another device like on your iPhone. I've managed to spot so many more errors and things I could change.
posted
23-Apr-16, 12:43
by MS86
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posted about 4 years ago
Hello all,
I’m new to this forum- and think this thread is brilliant, and may just be the motivation and support that I need to get my PhD finished! I am currently in my last year of funding (final payment end of September) completing a health sciences PhD.
I am really struggling on how to write, I feel overwhelmed at the amount there is to do. Recently I’ve been feeling that I won’t be able to finish, let along finish before the end of my funding.
I do have most my data (I have to complete data collection for my last qualitative study- hoping to by the end of May. But I still need to analyse two quantitative studies (data collection already completed), and another short qualitative study (data analysis completed).
I think in total there will be 7 main chapters in my thesis, and I currently have written in full draft one chapter (review chapter), and two half chapters written (introduction, and theoretical methods). I need to have the introduction and theoretical methods chapters written by the middle and of May as I’ve arranged two deadlines for my supervisors to review the chapters. However- these chapters are the hardest, as conceptually they’ve been extremely challenging.
I also have been working on a paper (covering three studies within the PhD) that I will be submitting hopefully by the end of the month. This has taken a lot of my time, as my supervisors are keen that I get this paper published, as there is a lot of interest in the topic. Anything that’s been taken out of the paper I’ve kept aside to include in the chapters.
I’m hoping the study chapters will be easier to write? As there is a formula I can follow (and these chapters will all have a clinical context that I can draw on).
On average how long does it take you all to finish a first draft of a chapter? Do you find that your writing style has improved? How does everyone else stay motivated and get over self –doubt?
Any advice would be appreciated!
posted
24-Apr-16, 21:01
edited about 28 seconds later
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posted about 4 years ago
Quote From Hugh:
Quote From SarahSarahSarah:
Would like to join this thread..... since I'm in my last year too. I have not started writing my thesis yet. PhD requirements in my country are 4 articles published in international journals (1 or 2 are allowed to be only submitted or in press). Each article will be one chapter in the thesis, so I haven't started writing, but those chapters will be finished once my articles are out.

I have submitted two now and the third is in preparation for submission, so I guess I am on track, but it is a tough time to get it all done in time.

And this week I am also suffering from procrastination


Welcome Sarah :)

It sounds like you are making wonderful progress, well done! Do you have a plan in place for this final year with deadlines?

I find deadlines motivating. As well as promising myself a treat :)


Yes, I want to have the 3rd manuscript submitted by the end of May. After submitting the 3rd I'll plan a strategy for the 4th. And yes, for me deadlines work as well ;-) otherwise nothing happens.

At this moment I am in that anxious author's mood (i.e. checking the status of my manuscript during the weekend, as if reviewers would return my manuscript on a Sunday afternoon)
posted
24-Apr-16, 21:05
edited about 5 seconds later
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posted about 4 years ago
Quote From Hugh:
Hi,

How are you all doing/progressing? I've finished writing up the chapter (finally!), but need to edit it, which is the stage I struggle with the most. It is not the hardest stage by far, but its the stage that I procrastinate the most in, because I find editing boring and monotonous. Also, every time I go through it, I always spot errors. Its hard to reach perfection.

Any suggestions/advice for editing?


Good luck Hugh! For me, it sometimes helps to get myself in lockdown for the first 2 or 3 hours in the morning. As in: No permission to do anything else than writing.
No phone.
No email
No music
No facebook

After this bootcamp I go out for a walk and allow myself to buy something delicious to eat
posted
24-Apr-16, 21:13
edited about 24 seconds later
by Hugh
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posted about 4 years ago
Quote From SarahSarahSarah:
Quote From Hugh:
Hi,

How are you all doing/progressing? I've finished writing up the chapter (finally!), but need to edit it, which is the stage I struggle with the most. It is not the hardest stage by far, but its the stage that I procrastinate the most in, because I find editing boring and monotonous. Also, every time I go through it, I always spot errors. Its hard to reach perfection.

Any suggestions/advice for editing?


Good luck Hugh! For me, it sometimes helps to get myself in lockdown for the first 2 or 3 hours in the morning. As in: No permission to do anything else than writing.
No phone.
No email
No music
No facebook

After this bootcamp I go out for a walk and allow myself to buy something delicious to eat


I like that strategy, thanks for sharing :) I'm going to try it tomorrow morning!
posted
25-Apr-16, 10:35
edited about 27 seconds later
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posted about 4 years ago
Well guys I have been to the doctors as I was bed ridden with nausea and sickness for the past few days after feeling unwell generally for two weeks and it seems I have a nasty ear infection! Thankfully I have anti nausea tablets now so I may be able to make some progress on the PhD this week finally! I have shifted my deadlines back a week to compensate for the lost time.

What are your aims for this week everyone?

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