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linkage-Math+agriculture
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Quote From Nesrine:
hello everybody
how can i applied math ( Fractal) on agriculture (sustainable agriculture)..
what can be my subject by matching those two topics ..

thank you ..


rewt already gave you a suggestion on the other thread you created.

Citing Authors I haven't read
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
No - of course not - who on earth would want to cite a paper they hadn't read that was crucial to understanding the science? :-0


Quote From Tudor_Queen:
I get your point though - and I think we agree on this. Lol :)


:-D

...and in fairness I get your point as well.

Citing Authors I haven't read
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
Just an example of where you can cite scientific papers without having read them. It isn't just black and white - there are several grey areas.


You are scraping the barrel here with this example :-) Knowledge of the statistical method and interpretation of the result is the crucial thing in your example. How the software efficiently makes the calculations for specific hardware platforms is barely relevant.

Do you have any good examples where knowledge contained within a paper is crucial to understanding the science?

Research Opportunities for Medical Students
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Quote From Kostas:
Dear Thesisfun. Thank you for your comment. This gives me the opportunity to add something extremeley important , which I neglected to say. The solution I have developed is TOPICAL. I would also like to remind you that the ingredients of the formula are ALL natural. The formula has already been approved by the National Pharmaceutical Services for "cosmetic" use. I have the "Products Information File" with all tests and results available upon request. The fact that I would like to proceed with official clinical studies, shows that the efficiency of the solution is very high.


Arsenic is natural.
As are the toxins created by many snakes and spiders and several plants and mushrooms.
I am not sure what your point is.

Agree with Thesisisfun. What you have published on that website is not a clinical trial.

Citing Authors I haven't read
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
No... don't agree at all... I use a statistical software called R. We need to cite papers that reference particular packages in this software. To read them would be madness - they are about how they were developed, troubleshooting etc. We follow online tutorials as a guide to how to use functions within the packages - the paper citing part is simply to acknowledge who developed it.


I am not talking about software packages.

Dissappointing my superviser and how to deal with that
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Why on earth are you feeling shame?
And you should not be worrying about how your supervisor feels either.
This PhD is yours and yours alone and you are going to make mistakes.
Your supervisor's feelings are irrelevant.

I didn't get any scholarships :(
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To be honest this is quite common. The ones who have talent are never sponsored.


You are joking right? It's a very good joke.

Citing Authors I haven't read
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
I also cite lots of statistics papers that I've never read... I need to acknowledge them because they authored the approach or the program... but in most cases reading them would be a complete waste of time! : )


starryeyed has explained the problem above. Your approach risks ending in the precise problem described in the news article above. The credibility of any researchers involved in this sloppiness has been destroyed with a risk of retracted papers and the end of their career.
Of course there is "accepted wisdom" but you should not reference the original papers if you can't verify them for yourself.
I can show you how I get around this via an example.
The whole of Chemistry is based on the Born-Oppenheimer approach. The original paper for this is in Geman and I cannot read German. If I want to work on approaches for which the Born Oppenheimer approximation breaks down and is no longer valid then I have a problem in terms of referencing. I have two solutions. The most obvious one is to take advantage of an English translation of the original paper. I then reference the translation paper. That paper would subsequently reference the original and the path is complete without me having to reference a paper i cannot read. The second approach involves referencing a secondary source such as a book which describes the information I want. Again the book should be referencing the original paper as per their responsibilities to science.
Thee may be other approaches but referencing literature you have not read is misconduct at best and at worst it means the papers of those who engage in it cannot be trusted as legitimate research resources becaue the authors cannot know for certain if what they are talking about is valid other than through hearsay. That might be OK for the general public in their daily lives but as professional researchers it is our job to be pedantic on things like this. If we dont do it, nobody else will do it.

Citing Authors I haven't read
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And if you can't get hold of it then you can't be absolutely certain what it contains and therefore can't ethically reference it.
As a researcher you are responsible for everything you write. Just like an athlete is responsible for everything they put in their body. This seems a very easy black and white case here. I don't see any scope for shades of grey.

Citing Authors I haven't read
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
Is it on Google books? If it is about a particular theory or something that you need to mention as general background (i.e., to make a point that this school of thought is it there - and this is a well known reference to it) then citing it makes sense whether you've read it or not. As long as you know that that's what it's about.


Yes maybe but you at least have to open the book and peer inside to know that surely?

Citing Authors I haven't read
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Quote From Paniked84:
Thank you all for your input!! Greatly appreciated for sure.

The book is not on google books, nor is it available on inter-Library Loan, which is why I thought to ask my supervisor if they had a copy of it. I fear that if I challenge them on this issue it will cause problems with our relationship since they have a relationship with the author. So, I think I should just cite it, but I did want to know what I should be doing to shape my own academic ethics.

Thankfully it is just a section of my thesis for the rationale where I have many other authors cited for this one argument and not for a particular theory. However, you all confirmed what I had thought, I should be reading the authors I am citing. Nonetheless, my gut felt uncomfortable with this for a reason.


It's a shame. You are backing down over a very trivial thing which you say makes you uncomfortable. You are going to face much more difficult ethical issues than this. Are you likely to stand up for yourself if you can't even deal with this trivial issue?
Why won't your supervisor simply let you read the book to allow you to form your own opinion?

It's your PhD and your choice how to handle this problem but in my opinion you are making a mistake not challenging this and you are creating a potential landmine for your viva.

No idea how to make money in science!
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Quote From vesper66:
I am currently considering a PhD do the hundredth time, having graduated with a high 2:1 and an MSc. I have worked in the life science industry for three years however at twenty six, the salaries ahead look a bit daunting. I was earning higher wages working in bars as a student and the financial situation is really starting to get me down. I am considering doing a PhD to enhance my career trajectory, however I am subside which next step would be the most lucrative.


Doing a PhD for financial reasons is a terrible idea.

You earn big money with specific industrial experience in something which companies require but can't easily source. You are already in industry. Why would you come out? Surely it would be easier to identify a better job and train yourself for it in your spare time?

What kind of income are you after anyway?

What should I do if I have lost faith in my work?
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Quote From Ciniselli:
I'm in a long, long corrections phase at the moment after a viva that didn't go well at all. I came to the realisation recently that I fundamentally do not actually believe in my work, and that so much of what I've been doing for the past few years has been blagging and trying to persuade other people that it's valid and contributes something when it isn't and doesn't.

I sort of thought this was normal to feel insecure, so I brushed it off. But surely it can't be normal to feel that your work isn't actually valid or making any kind of contribution? That you can't actually do anything with it except scrape a pass on resubmission? The next stage of an academic career demands that I get publications out of my work - but how can I do that if I don't believe in it?


It could be that you know you genuinely aren't good enough to be a good researcher (the vast majority of people fall into this category) or it could be imposter syndrome. If it helps, it's worth pointing out how few researchers genuinely are doing worthwhile research. Have a look around you at the work of others. How many are truly changing the lives of anyone else or doing vitally important work? If you find more than a handful you are probably not looking hard enough.
You will know if others see value in your research when you start applying for postdocs or funding. You might want to consider reserving your own personal judgement until then. At least that approach might buy you some time.

How to deal with fellow PhD students
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I would tell the other PhD students that if they don't like the way things are organised then they should either get off their backsides and volunteer to help out or keep their opinions to themselves. I'm quite surprised that this type of organisation is being left to a PhD student. Staff or postdocs should be getting paid to do this job. Did you request this responsibility or was it forced on you?
I don't pander to people who whine. You would never get genuine and meaningful friendships from these types of people anyway.

SOAS or QUEEN MARY? HELP!
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Quote From sharling:
Hi there,
So a few questions...
I have an offer to study msc in economics at SOAS and msc in finance at QMUL.
I have no idea what to choose, what is better.

Can someone advise?

Thanks a lot!


You are not really giving us much to work with here.
Can you give us more information about what you want to do after your degree?