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ICYMI: The Case for Colonialism
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Quote From Nad75:
Wow, PM, not sure why you are so defensive. This is an issue that concerns our industry. Yes, this article is being exposed, not as nonsense, but as a dangerous editorial slip/possibly paid off. I don't have to provide an analysis, the abstract is written simply enough for anyone with a critical background to understand. Good god, look at that last sentence. Did you not read the beginning of the post, where the reason I noticed it was from the ripples in Twitter by political science and social science academics who study colonialism and international relations?



I am not being defensive. I am giving a robust rebuttal of your post.

What you are proposing is the silencing of an academic. You have also insinuated that someone has been given a bribe to publish it without feeling any obligation to provide a shred of evidence.

What you are engaging in is totally indefensible. It is academically lazy at best and intellectually bankrupt at worst. Your bribe insinuation is no better than a cheap smear campaign.
Frankly I am surprised that you are taken aback at receiving no backing for your position.

Attempting to silence researchers is crime number one as far as I am concerned.
We are all capable of reading these sorts of articles and coming to our own conclusions about their worth. I can't speak for anyone else here but I don't personally need you or anyone else telling me what I should or should not find shocking. It's pretty arrogant of you to suggest otherwise. Who decided you were the arbiter of what the truth is?

A discussion of the actual article is for another day. I offer no opinion on it.

ICYMI: The Case for Colonialism
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Quote From Ephiny:
It doesn't sound very politically correct, for sure, but I agree that in academia of all places we should have freedom of thought and of speech. Presumably it will stimulate robust debate, no doubt including some academics from the post-colonial countries in question, who I'm sure are capable of speaking for themselves. If the original premise is misguided or not supported by the evidence, it should be easy to rebut.

If the controversy generates clicks and citations, I guess that's good for the journal, far from 'sinking' it?


Exactly. There is no room for political correctness when it comes to academic research. It is vital that researchers are able to ask difficult questions, propose controversial solutions and then have their reputation stand or fall on that basis alone.

Silencing academic research is far more damaging than a few crackpots spouting off. I would defend the crackpots right to free speech before I would defend the original poster's apparent desire to silence any researcher.

Stubborn supervisor
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It is very difficult once you are in the PhD to do anything about this - especially when you have just started.
What makes you think you are correct and your supervisor is wrong by the way?
Your supervisor is much more experienced than you are. Be very certain you are correct before you go any further.
I would probably allow the first project to slide the supervisors way and then I would tell them that I wanted to now try entirely my own idea next with the supervisor offering nothing more than advice. That might be a good compromise. You presumably have plenty of time to develop your own voice.

Your post is an important one though and a subject which has been raised many times.

For the benefit of other potential PhD students I would like to offer some advice. It is absolutely crucial that when you interview for PhD positions that you recognise your own value and worth. You simply MUST interview the supervisor. Find out what they expect from you in terms of autonomy, working hours, location, who writes the papers, who comes up with the ideas. This situation is easily avoided by having that conversation up front. Disaster can ensue if you avoid it.

Must supervisors always be on the paper?
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
Thanks for your contributions all!

pm133, it bothers me because one of the ways in which academia is in need of reform is that names are put on papers where no credit is due.

I'm doing it on this occasion (because I can't see a way out) but I won't for the other papers.


I understand that but of all the problems in academia, this is a pretty small fish.
Using public funds to perform research and then deliberately writing the results in archaic language so the public cant understand how little you have achieved and then allowing a private company to hide those results behind a paywall is borderline criminal. Mind you the SCI HUB website now lists virtually every academic paper for free so maybe this will end that practice.

Not-to-be-mentioned-option post-PhD
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Quote From iwan:
Do people tend to judge if a PhD candidate mention that upon graduation, he/she is aiming for a teaching position in polytechnics? I often get that 'why do you aim so low' or 'why do you even choose to do a PhD even'.

is this thought about career option not something to be shared amongsts your coursemates?


That is now two posts where you seem overly concerned about what other people think.
People are idiots. We all are. It really is best just to avoid this kind of converstion. It is of no consequence to anyone but yourself.
For example, I have a PhD and I have chosen to earn money delivering pizza leaflets for the moment. What other people think of that is worth precisely what I paid for their opinion.

If this makes you happy then go for it. Most of your fellow PhD students will never find a permanent academic job anyway.

The irony of the word 'student'
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Actually, I consider postdocs to be students as well. I know some academics do so too.
Until you have a permanent academic job, you havent proven yourself to those who matter for your career and therefore undergrads, postgrads and postdocs are all on the same spectrum in my eyes.
Others may disagree.

I wouldnt let any of this bother you to be honest.

ICYMI: The Case for Colonialism
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Quote From Nad75:
So, I'm putting this out here in case any humanities/social science students missed this article that caused a flurry on Twitter. I thought it was a joke, but it truly may sink this journal (Third World Quarterly) , considering they give out the 'Edward Said' award and Chomsky, among other prolific academics, are on the editorial board.


Title: The Case for Colonialism by Bruce Gilley
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For the last 100 years, Western colonialism has had a bad name. It is high time to question this orthodoxy. Western colonialism was, as a general rule, both objectively beneficial and subjectively legitimate in most of the places where it was found, using realistic measures of those concepts. The countries that embraced their colonial inheritance, by and large, did better than those that spurned it. Anti-colonial ideology imposed grave harms on subject peoples and continues to thwart sustained development and a fruitful encounter with modernity in many places. Colonialism can be recovered by weak and fragile states today in three ways: by reclaiming colonial modes of governance; by recolonising some areas; and by creating new Western colonies from scratch.

It also had an altimetric of over 900 in just a few hours (due to Twitter) and over 600 views. :| Damn.
It was originally published as an article, but it seems the journal now changed it to 'viewpoint'..as if it will save it.

(I can't seem to choose the 'off topic' category for some reason)


If this article is nonsense, it will be exposed as such.
Why dont you provide such an analysis rather than telling us what we should be thinking?
I am not sure why our modern society has such a fear of strong opinions and feels this odd obsession with closing down speech.

Start PhD in 3 weeks: no supervisor or project
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Quote From AgnesNutter:
I'm due to start my PhD in 3 weeks time, but received an email from my supervisor a couple of days ago to tell me that they have just been offered a job elsewhere, and my project is now off the table. The university are still going to honour my offer of a studentship, but I don't know for what project or who my supervisor will be.

My 2nd supervisor (who I haven't met) is apparently 'very keen to work with me', but they are a post doc, and reading between the lines, I suspect that they will be my de facto supervisor, while somebody more senior will be a nominal 1st supervisor. I may be reading too much into this though.

Another alternative suggested is that I join a completely different group, but none was actually suggested. For the moment, it's being left for discussion once I arrive.

Has anybody else found themselves in this position before, or have any advice on how I should handle this?


Personally, I would be withdrawing unless I was happy with the new offer. Under no circumstances would I accept a postdoc as a supervisor. I would be pressing for an immediate resolution and I would walk if that wasnt forthcoming within a week.

Must supervisors always be on the paper?
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
I do not want to put a supervisor's name on a paper simply 'cause it is the way things are done. I've barely seen this particular supervisor (although they're lovely), as they gave a bit of technical advice at the start and then I was well away (actually I got most of the technical advice I needed from other sources). I have to send the finished paper to them as they said they wanted to read it and I agreed to. But is there an acceptable way to get out of having to put this extra person as an author (the paper will already have several names)?


My supervisor is always on my papers regardless of contribution.
Wouldnt consider leaving him off.
Why does this bother you so much?

Not sure if the PhD is right for me
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Quote From CharlieC:
What would you class as a good reason to get a PhD? If not because the topic is interesting, to further ones career and / or to do something that's intellectually challenging / stimulating?



Those are great reasons to do a PhD but that doesn't come across in your post.
I was left with the impression that you are seeing it as a way to get out of your current job and you are considering it now because for some reason you are afraid of being too old if yo leave it any longer.

Both of those are really terrible reason to do one. That is where I am coming from.

Incidentally, let me add one more thing about your age worries. Let me put all this fear in context.
Your active adult life can be assumed to span the ages of 20 to 80 years of age.
60 years in total.

At 48, I am precisely 28 years into that 60 year period.
I am less than half way through my career. I have 32 years left. More than enough time.
If, having heard that, you still want to insist that 48 is too old to be a scientist then I respecfully disagree.

Life is a marathon to get to the age of 80, not a sprint to get everything done by 60.

Not sure if the PhD is right for me
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Quote From CharlieC:
What would you class as a good reason to get a PhD? If not because the topic is interesting, to further ones career and / or to do something that's intellectually challenging / stimulating?

Re your other points
1) I'm not. More considering the impact having a PhD will have on our decision to start a family, something all adults should consider prior to starting one.

2) being too old or not is personal opinion. The vast majority of PhD students are in their early to mid twenties and with a general consensus the PhD becomes your everything (or perhaps that was just the case at the place I did my CDT year). As one gets older one is more likely to be earning a higher salary and become accustomed to a certain lifestyle, thus making it harder to walk away from to go back to earning the meagre PhD stipend. Furthermore as one gets older a PhD becomes less and less useful. With say 10 working years left ahead of you it's less useful than for someone who has say 40 working years left. Just my two pence worth though...


I'll deal with your second point first because in the 21st century it is very frustrating to still have people perpetuating this ageist nonsense.

Being "too old" absolutely is a personal choice. It's one thing to suggest that a 40 year old is too old to become a gold medallist at swimming but that is absolutely and categorically not true of someone who wants to become a scientist. It's ridiculous to suggest that you are too old for this at 40 and you are speaking to someone who has done it at 48. I would be more than happy to go head to head for a job as a scientist against anyone half my age. I did it to secure a highly competitive 12 month industrial research placement 5 years ago and if I ever needed to become employed again I would be very confident of beating off the competition again. You may be right about the vast majority of PhD candidates being in their mid-twenties but I fail to see your point. They will have almost no work or real life experience outside academia. How attractive do you think that is to an industrial company who needs someone to hit the ground running on day one? I come with a PhD AND almost 20 years of industrial experience. You had better be awesome if you think come up against me for the same job lol :-D

In my many years of experience, most industrial employers are not interested in how many years you have left. They are interested in your capability, your willingness to fit in and your salary expectations. Most employees don't stick around for more than a few years anyway. Of course I can only speak about the UK here. Other countries may have more destructive attitudes towards age amongst their population.

On your first point about having kids, you will either be in a job or in a PhD. The only consideration is whether you want a kids or can afford it. Beyond that you are overplanning in my opinion.

PhD in bioscience: how to judge progress
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Quote From iwan:
Im one year into my PhD which has been stressful because of the toxic lab environment and the fact that i was asked to come up with my own project and to DESIGN from scratch a device that can deliver mechanical force to cells.

Was rocky in the beginning but i managed to get the device working and got some data here and there. A senior in the lab advised me to move on to the next step of the project asking me why am i wasting my time at this step when its already showing u the results you want to see. Move along kinda thing so i kinda agree.

So i showed my prof the data and the next future step but my prof suggested that i dont rush through things. Dont be too eager is what she said.

How does one evaluate whether he or she is going at the right pace or not?


You ignore the senior person in your lab for a start. That person sounds like an idiot.
Your supervisor is your main point of contact for advice on that sort of thing and it sounds like you have had great advice there. Don't ruch this. Make sure you are completely sure it works before moving on. You risk months or a year of wasted work if you don't ensure you have the tool working properly.

Congratulations on getting that particular device to work. That is a major achievement and you should be very proud of it.

What sort of hours do you work for PhD?
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
Haha, I remember asking people that. Yeh, it is possible. I know people who work 2 days a week and have kids and do their PhDs. Personally, I think I could fit my PhD into those hours and fewer days a week, if I following a strict regime and was very self-disciplined. (In fact, I did used to be more disciplined in that way... but I think the PhD has a way of changing your working habits... sometimes you end up just working solidly until midnight simply because you feel like you CAN work on that particular day... especially as the day before you sat at your desk for 7 hours staring at the screen and maybe managed to write a single sentence, which you then deleted later as it was rubbish anyway...). It is pretty dynamic - you'll probably just end up adapting for what works for you (unless you have other big constraints in your life - which may actually help you get that structure and be more disciplined). But it is doable in those times yes.


Good advice there. I don't recall ever counting up my weekly hours. I have seen me work 12pm to 10pm at night and during the write-up working from midnight until 9am before crashing for a few hours and then getting up at 1pm and working till 7pm again - all over the place.

I think when you are in the zone, time doesn't matter.

I spoke to my supervisor about his expectations of hours etc during the interview. He gave me a rough indication but said he wasn't interested in enforcing anything or checking up on us. Results were everything to him and he said I should work as few hours or as many hours as I wanted because it would be my PhD to sell for the rest of my career.

What sort of hours do you work for PhD?
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Quote From CharlieC:
I'm due to be starting my PhD next month and wondering what sort of hours most people work? Is it possible to complete working 8:30 until 5/5:30 Monday to friday?


It's not about hours worked but what you achieve during those hours.
The world is full of tedious people claiming to work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week who actually are only productive for a few hours a day.
Having said that, it also depends on what you want to get out of the PhD.
In my opinion, it is very hard to do anything hugely successful or brilliant within the hours you specify but that might not be what you are aiming at.
I don't want to talk about how many hours I used to work because I don't like the idea of equating hours worked with success but I tended to routinely dip in and out of PhD work throughout the evenings and weekends. I rarely work set hours. I tend to be a batch worker - 3 to 4 hours at a time.

Make your PhD task-based and focus on delivering those tasks. When you have done what you set out to do that day, go home and ignore the clock watchers. That would be my strong advice.

I need help with some administrative hassle in order to get a PhD defense date set
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Quote From Soulflower:
I have finished and handed the final version of my PhD in Organizational Behavior to my university about two months ago. In that time my mentor and the four members of my defense committee approved it and I am waiting for my defense date to be scheduled.

However, about a week ago the head of administration of the university informed me that there is one more legal procedure that needs to be done before the defense date can be set. Apparently, the law for higher education concerning the process of acquiring a PhD states: once the final version has been submitted and approved, the student needs to write a 15 pages summary of the thesis. Then the summary needs to be sent to five educational institutions which have a department the corresponds with the topic of the thesis in this case business/management. These are mailed by regular post from my university to whichever I deem appropriate and the university waits for a month for a response. According to the administration head here, response is not needed, as long as in 1 month none of those institutions write back with proposed changes to the thesis, defense date can be set. His words: find me five institutions where you know a person that the summary can be addressed to, this is just a formality and rarely which institution writes back. However, if they write back with proposed amendments then your defense can't be schedules for another few months until you have changed those things, your mentor and committee approved it again and then that same institution approves it again. In other words he wants me to find institutions which will not prolong my defense date and would not respond or if they decide to, the response should be positive.

I honestly don't need much help apart from your willingness to accept the 15 pages summary sent to your university by mine and hopefully not find any changes to propose, so not write anything back for a month or if you decide to, write few sentences in a positive light.


You are asking people to engage in intellectual corruption to save yourself a bit of effort.
Please dont.
It is completely indefensible behaviour.