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Someone has stolen my project :-(
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Quote From helebon:
This had happened to me on a few occasions. My previous research idea I spoke to my supervisor about and that I decided on using a specific gallery as a location for recruiting my research participants. The supervisor said, "I've never heard of it" (the gallery). Fast forward a year when I intercalated due to being unwell and they are doing a project with the gallery! I changed research ideas and supervisor after that.

Then when I mentioned to an MPhil student my new research ideas and the next time I saw them they changed their research idea to similar to mine.

It is fairly rife peoples research ideas being stolen. It's so hard to know who to trust. I am enthusiastic about my research ideas but I need to stop discussing them with people. When people ask me what my research question is and methods I need to avoid answering.

Ogriv you mentioned people who are magpies and this seems very appropriate.


This is why I never liked to discuss or present any unpublished work at conference or to other academics. Nobody can or should be trusted.

Not sure if the PhD is right for me
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Quote From CharlieC:
So I dropped out of a CDT a few years back and am due to restart my PhD next month. I'm really questioning whether it's right for me though. I don't particularly enjoy the job I'm in now, it's a secure job and has a reasonable level of stability but I'm questioning my career trajectory and I'm not overly enjoying it. I feel the PhD is in an interesting subject but it's a topic I had no experience in as an undergrad and I'm really worried about how difficult it's going to be to pick it up. I've tried to read up on it, read papers etc and I'm really struggling to get my head around it. I don't want to be an academic but a PhD in my field can be very helpful. I feel so torn. I obviously wasn't good enough last time and I'm scared I won't be good enough this time either. I'm also worried about the (quite substantial) drop in income and the obviously increased workload of a PhD vs working. I think I'd always wonder what if, if I didn't go for it. But that doesn't necessarily mean that this project is the right fit for me. I think it's very much a case of now or never too - if I leave it much longer it'll be even harder to leave my job and I already feel like I'm getting too old. My partner and I would love to start a family in the next few years, although this is an issue even if I start the PhD next month or next year and we've already discussed potentially trying towards the latter part of the PhD. I really don't know what to do or what's best for me.


To be honest it sounds like you are considering the PhD for all the wrong reasons. I would say you need to be absolutely certain you want a PhD and you need to have very little doubt that you are good enough before you start. There are many examples of PhD students being broken by the process and you dont want to become one of them.
A PhD will be the toughest intellectual thing most people will do in their lives so dont expect anything other than 4 years of feeling completely out of your depth. This is normal.

Some other points.
1) Stop trying to plan the minutiae your life and start living it. Have kids when you want to have kids and just deal with the consequences when they occur. Plans almost never work out the way you thought.

2) There is no such thing as being too old for a PhD. I have no idea where people keep getting that idea from.

Follow career passion or payoff student loans?
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A country has no business charging its citizens to be educated because an educated society is an investment not a cost.

Also, thinking about your pension at the age of 37 is grim. I would not make decisions based on what I might need at the age of 65. I am 48 and have no pension other than the state pension to look forward to - I may drop dead next week or I will probably choose to remain active until I die. Mind you, in the UK we dont believe in letting our citizens starve in the street so its easier for me to do this than for you.
Get out there and live your life.

Does anyone else not feel ready to move on?
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
I felt similar to this at the end of my BSc. Everyone was so happy and excited about finishing, and I was completely depressed. It was only when I got into my next venture that I stopped missing it and actually began to see it was a good thing that it was over and done with! I think it is a comfort zone thing. No one wants to leave their comfort zone (unless it is really really uncomfortable! And even then there is a tendency to look back at it with rose tinted specs as you reach the end of the torment!).


Absolutely spot on.
Since I finished and started running my own business I forgot all about the PhD within a week or two, most of my energy returned and I could enjoy life again. Just need to worry about earning enough to buy food now :-D

About to submit
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Quote From iamlost86:
Hi both,
I am doing a PhD in Biophysics and I am suppose to submit at the end of October-which sadly I dont think will happen as I am going through a mental breakdown at the moment.
Mull, I think what you are thinking, that you are a fraud makes absolute sense. When I was on full PhD studying mode I felt I knew almost everything about my research, now that I am not bothered to study a thing and all I do is face the screen of my laptop, I feel worthless and that I will never graduate and that I am a fraud!

I think that your supervisor is very kind to you and you should trust him because they have seen many phd theses a d they have a good judgement, so if he says you should submit then go for it! I am sure you have submitted by now but I wanted to wish you the best for your viva and not to be afraid of it. See it as a nice chat with people (examiners) who have similar interests with you!

All the best!


Everyone of us feels a fraud at some point of our PhD.
Those who dont are either not doing anything challenging or worthwhile or they are lying bastards.
In my opinion of course :-D

Graduating with honors, is it really that important!?
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If everyone and their dog is gaining an honours degree then you would be foolish not to do the same.

One month to submit my phd and I have a mental breakdown-cannot get extension. HELP!
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Quote From iamlost86:
Hi all,

Apologies for the long post to follow...

I am supposed to submit in October, that is the 4 years of studies mark.
However, I am going through a mental breakdown for personal and phd reasons that are:

-I went through a nasty breakup (my boyfriend of 3 years told me his family HATES me for being an immigrant).
-I found myself homeless and living off friends houses. I changed 4 houses within 2 months. My PhD funding has ended since last October.
-I have no substantial supervisor support. 1 out of my 4 supervisors only responds/acknowledges my drafts.


I realise there is NO way I can submit my phd on time. I am mentally incapable to read a line of a magazine, let alone write the remaining of my phd thesis. Thus, I have requested to suspend my studies but they told me at this stage I cannot suspend or extend and I HAVE to submit.

I have 1 month to go and still have 50% of my thesis left to write but I swear I cannot do a thing and all I do is crying and trying to compose myself. The worst part is that the more I neglect studying the more I forget things and the more difficult it becomes to get back into it and understand my data...Such a vicious circle that I cant keep up with...

Please help me, has anyone ever been through something similar? How did you come out of this? Can someone please advise me what to do? Please!


That is a very difficult set of circumstances.
I cant help you with the boyfriend bit other than to say that you need to find a way of parking this right now because you have more important things to worry about. At least you found out after only a few years. Imagine dedicating your entire life to this guy and realising he was wrong for you.

Forget your supervisors. Right now they are irrelevant and you should not be needing them at all at this stage.

As long as you have a roof, your living situation is not a priority right at this moment either and can be put to one side.

Crying or therapy isnt going to help you either. Its time for you to. gather any energy you have left and fight for your future for the next 28 days. You have plenty of time to cry after that.

The point is to try and mentally block things off temporarily so you can focus on one thing - submitting. Right now you are trying to deal with too many other issues which are simply not important in the next month. Deal with those in October once you have submitted.

Then you need to decide if you can gather enough energy to fight that single battle.
Dont focus on perfection right now. Just focus on writing something which allows you to submit on time. Changes can be made later.
Remember that no matter how hard this month is going to be, it will end in just a few weeks and it will all be over, leaving you time to deal with the other crap going on.

Need Some Advice; One Master's, Failed to finish second one, looking at PhD...
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Quote From canasian:
I'm writing for some advice.

I have a Master's degree in Applied Statistics from a very good university, but had trouble finding work. In the hopes of becoming a more attractive candidate for employment, I decided to pursue a second masters but was unable to finish due to ailing mental health.

Now after some serious thought about my next steps, I feel as though pursuing a PhD is the right path for me to fulfill my goals. However, I'm concerned about my chances of getting accepted due to my most recent failures. Any thoughts on this? Thank you for your help.


If you are having mental health issues I would urge you to fix those before you even go near a PhD position.
A PhD will seriosuly stress your mental health and if you are already in trouble in that respect it could be disastrous for you.

As an aside, unless you went to Oxford or Cambridge there really is no such thing as a "very good university". Industry generally doesnt care where people get their degrees from. It is usually always about the person themselves. If you are struggling to get work it will almost always be possible to fix that by focussing on your CV, the skills you can sell and your "presence" during an interview. I have yet to meet a graduate struggling to get a job where I cannot immediately tell why they should be struggling within minutes of meeting them.

Really I should try and think of a way of making money by offering people a "job readiness" analysis service lol.

How much the previous university's prestige matters for a phd enrollment?
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Quote From ancienthistory:
Hi everyones, I'd like to apply for a PhD in Ancient History at Oxford in the future.
Currently I'm planning to apply for a ResMa in Ancient History at Leiden university, in the Netherlands, which is thaught in English.
Is it a recognised uni for classics in UK or the US or should I do a British university instead, such as Durham, Mancester, UCL, St Andrews and so on to have better possibilities to be taken at Oxford?
Thank you all!


In my opinion it matters less where you study and more about what you do when you are there.
I would stop worrying about rankings and focus more on what each university can offer you while you are there.
You risk going into this with the wrong mindset.

Does anyone else not feel ready to move on?
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Quote From PhDStudentCharlie:
So I am incredibly lucky and I have secured a post doc that starts next month. It is only a 5 month position but I have something for when my PhD funding runs out and I am incredibly grateful.

That means, I need to have my thesis ready for submission. It is nearly done. But I find myself constantly procrastinating over the last few bits. I really don't want to finish it. I'm not ready for it to be over.

Has anyone else go through this? And any tips for actually getting it done or at least feeling better about it being over?


The way to get it done is to mentally know what you want to do afterwards and to be more energised by that than the PhD.
That is what got me over the line.

There was a point when I remember feeling the same way as you. In fact I have had that periodically throughout my career when coming to the end of a project. It was a fear that I would never again feel that level of intensity. I had come to be addicted to it. It is a very justified fear.

Now that I am self employed, however, I get all the intensity I want with full control over the level of it.

Cut the chord to your PhD and let go.

Starting PhD with maternity leave plans
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Quote From PracticalMouse:
I got pregnant about 10 months into my funded PhD. It worked out great - because my husband took on a massive amount of childcare after my maternity leave finished to give me the space to complete. I submitted on time, and now don't have to worry about being an 'old' mother and can look for jobs without thinking about when to get pregnant. However I do think if you want a career in academia, more than one is madness. I literally do not know a single woman with more than one child who has been able to make that work (unless her husband is a stay-at-home full-time dad).

Make sure before you embark on this route that your husband is totally committed too...you will need his support.


I worked with a woman with 2 kids who said she was essentially earning nothing because her entire wage was being eaten up in childcare.

I couldn't understand why they considered that money as coming from her salary and not jointly split between her and her husband.

In a surprising number of families, both the "partners" consider their earnings to be their own. Each to their own I suppose but in my house everything both of us earns goes into a single pot.

Therefore, when two amounts of childcare need to be paid for it is not my wife who is essentially paying "her whole salary" to pay for all this - the childcare is coming from the joint pot.

This is important because many women stop working because they think it isn't financially worth it. But you need to factor in whether a 3 to 5 year gap in your CV is going to be a problem. A continuous CV, in my opinion, has a financial value to it in itself.

Of course, childcare is expensive but it doesn't last forever. Once the kids are in school it largely stops.

Obviously some women (and some men too actually) prefer to stay at home for a few years looking after the kids, in which case that is fine.

About to submit
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Quote From Mull:
Hi, I'm a PhD student in a UK university doing chemistry and submitting my thesis this week, I'm at the end of my third year. First time posting here, didn't know things like this existed (wish I did during my first year) and was just after some advice I guess.


I have an incredibly optimistic supervisor, who only once "was disappointed in me" which was worse than any scolding I've ever received. Anyway he has been helpful during the writing process, reading each chapter and giving me corrections and has seen 2 full drafts in total. About a month ago he said in an email "It is much improved on previous versions and even if you did nothing more, would be worth submitting for examination." along with some suggestions.

My only issues I suppose are mental at this stage, I feel like a fraud and that I've only begun to learn things about my subject I should have learned two years ago. I am slightly dreading the viva, that they will ask me something I should know and it'll become apparent. It's awkward to talk to anyone about this kind of stuff and if I ever begin to bring things up of this vein to my sup he makes points like half of my thesis is published, it's an adequate length for the subject (26,000 words) etc.

Sorry for the wall of text but have any of you had these last moment doubts? I feel so close to finishing but every time I read my final draft I start to get a headache and hate it. I'm starting a new (non academia) job in a couple of weeks too which hasn't helped.

Thanks for reading this even if you don't have anything to say.

Mull


Yeah I did Chemistry as well. I never believed that you could be a world expert in anything in just 3 years. It cannot be done. At that stage a PhD student has learned to be basically competent. You then have a lifetime to gain genuine expertise.
Therrefore, you would do well to shelf any unrealistic expectations and focus on submitting. The viva will be uncomfortable but it will end eventually and you will have corrections to do which will frame your remaining obligations.
You have a new job which is great and that is now way more important than your PhD.
You just have to get your head down and get submitted.
Wont be long before the viva is 6 months in the past.

No motivation, always procrastinating - is there any hope?
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Quote From Coarvi:
Thank you for your honest advice, pm133. I went to a therapist and she basically said the same thing. There is no point for me to look for methods of avoiding procrastination as long as I dislike what I do so much.

I really needed to hear that.


You are welcome. This advice comes from personal experience so I know exactly what you are going through.
It is always good to talk to someone but formal therapy isnt usually helpful when you are feeling miserable or empty. In my opinion, the large increase in mental health problems is as a result of people forcing themselves to do things when every sinew of their being is telling them to do something else. The strange thing is that when people take a moment to be honest with themselves they largely know full well what they want to do but for some reason they persist in doing something else. It is a guaranteed way to have an utterly miserable life.

So what did I do?

I left permanent employment and academia after my PhD because both environments make me miserable. Instead I re-evaluated how much money i was prepared to live on and started my own leaflet distribution business to allow me to live. All my subsequent time is spent on am effort to build up skills in specific technical areas to give me a chance of creating a technical product or service. Within 6 weeks of leaving uni, I am now able to offer software design and programming skills and could start day trading in shares if I wanted to as I have taught myself enough accounts to understand what to do.

Money is very tight and there is no guarantee I will ever earn what I used to or even succeed in creating a product but life is absolutely great again and everyday I leap out of bed full of energy. The problem is my mother's constant negativity but I have learned to block her out.

So, instead of therapy I would urge everyone to listen to their bodies, obey what it is telling you, CHANGE what you are doing and give fewer fucks about what other people think. It is OK to have a PhD and deliver pizza leaflets for 10 hours a week and then to spend another 30 hours reading technical books for the love of it.

Systematic review help!
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Quote From spuddy:
Hi!

I am trying to synthesize the results of my systematic review and had a question regarding the participants count.

If a study reports to have, for eg, 100 ppts, 80 of which answered a particular question (agree/disagree), of which 50 selected "agree" - does that mean 50 out of 80 "agree" or 50 out of 100? I need to know this so I can further figure out the % of ppts who "Agree" and combine this with the other study with the same finding.

I have tried to read through other SR's but I have not yet seen one that makes any sense to me with regards to my question!

Any help would be much appreciated!

Thank you!


I would agree with thesisisfun under normal circumstances but only one of them can be correct for your usage and that is because you are combining with another study. You need to use exactly the same method they used or you will get bogus results.

loss of intellectual confidence and the good old procrastination!
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Quote From statictraveller:
Hi,
I have lost my (intellectual) confidence. I am one year three months into my PhD and honestly all I can say at this stage is that I finally know why I'm doing what I am doing but I am so overwhelmed by the amount of work I need to do and disbelief in my shortcomings (i.e. my brain does not understand bioinformatics) that I end up procrastinating.

In addition, I would like to tear my hair off as I can easily spend over 48 hours to run a script, having never ever had any bioinformatics training, which ultimately fails. I have heard many PhD students "yeah we taught ourselves Python or R". I am sorry but they must have a much higher IQ than me because I cannot get my head around simple stats, let alone script-writing.
Also, I am so lonely. my research group consists of me and my Sup.and nobody else around me does remotely similar work to me. I am totally in the wrong department!
Any advice on how I can stop procrastinating and get on with this? I love my research, I don't know what's wrong with me.


OK first off, you really need to knock some of this stuff on the head, such as comments about your IQ etc. It's nonsense and you are using it as a weapon against yourself. Self flagellation isn't going to help you here - you will just drive yourself insane.

Not one of us on here has a different story to tell about how overwhelming our first few months are. Not one of us. Lonely, overwhelmed, feeling a bit shit, whatever - we have all been there. It would have been nice if someone had prepared us for this before we start so we know what to expect. The first sentence in the PhD acceptance letter should read "Welcome to Big Boy/Big Girl school. Buckle up and prepare to feel inadequate for the next 4 years".

Now for some constructive advice :-D
Before you even start talking about Python or R you need to understand what problems you are going to solve with them.
For that you need books on Bioinformatics and Statistics- particularly introductory level for both - I am sitting with a Stats book on my shelf called Introductory Statistics by Wonnacott.
There will probably be a key book or two for the discipline.
Read it and make sure you understand it.
Only then can you hope to follow literature papers.
Once you have both you can then start thinking about the tools you will use such as Python and R. In my opinion, this could easily be 3 to 6 months of work to get all of this onboard so you might want to get started on a plan.

By the way, I would ignore what your supervisor thinks right now. They have already failed in their basic duty of care over you by not providing exactly the advice I have given you above. That should have been the first thing you were told. Also, you are not there to write papers. You are there to master a discipline. It seems your supervisor doesn't even appreciate that either.