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Writing in your own voice - anyone got any tips?
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I'm a big believer in redrafting. Anything I submit to my sup is at least the 3rd draft. By then I feel that I have worked through simple regurgitating of the material and have at least moved from description to evaluation. That's another point - what we're doing is evaluating previous research not simply describing what's out there. I know lit reviews are bringing previous work together but the aim is to do so to substantiate your own argument and find your niche. And to do so you need to evaluate surely?

Anyhow I'm waffling on. Learning to write is a huge part of the process - if not the main one. And writing is not simply typing out words. Give yourself as much time for writing and rewriting as much as reading. Give yourself time to find your voice.

Writing in your own voice - anyone got any tips?
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I don't want to go all hippy or New World or RHCP but part of the PHd experience is finding your own voice.

Good tips in here already. All I would add is that your voice will come from a bit of distance from your work and redrafting. What I mean is write what you feel is a good piece of work, leave it for a few days, and then revisit it with fresh eyes. As you rework sentences to give your writing a bit of flow you will find that you naturally begin to discover your voice.

This might take 3 weeks or the full 3 years but remember that as you get more confident with the material your own voice will appear.

How much input does your second supervisor have?
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For me, less than zero.

working hours
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IMO if you are regularly working 11 hours a day then, frankly, you are quite shit at the PhD thing.

Organising Research Trip / Applying for grant
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I received an email during the week of some research money that is available through my uni. My question is how do you go about organising/justifying your trip? Did you contact one of the professors in the department of the host uni you like the look of? Did you contact the research centre? Did you try and get on a course for a semester? I'm not planning to do all these things but I'm trying to get a sense of how people on here approach it. For me personally I'm looking for a semester experience at this uni and to use the materials/resources to get a paper out of it.

Also what kind of experiences have people had in terms of applying for research money? How long does it take to come through?

Thanks

Approaches to a conference paper
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Hi guys

I'm due to give a conference paper in a few weeks. I was wondering about other people's approaches to all this conference paper business. I gave my 1st paper in Europe during the autumn and I had planned that paper for months rewriting and rewriting. It was basically an adapted version of the 1st chapter of my thesis and I was within the mindset of "here I am. This is what I do. I am a serious researcher".

The paper I am presenting is a few weeks will be a version of the 2nd chapter of my thesis but I feel completely differently about the conference. I feel like simply presenting as if this is my work-in-progress fellow researchers, what do you think? I guess it's a more informal approach but I feel like I'm trying to find my own feet within a chapter that is moving a little out of my field and I'd like good feedback about it.

My strategy at the moment is simply to introduce myself and my research. State how this separate research field impinges (not that is a quintessential phd word right there!) on my studies. State it's a work in progress and would appreciates thoughts and feedback after. Give the paper. Engage in the panel discussion and hopefully get some thoughts. Hopefully some drinks and chat afterwards.

My point is just that I'm very relaxed at the moment about the experience. I see it more as what can I learn from these experts rather than seeing it as a performance in which I have to prove myself.

mum with small kids and doing a PHD
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I have to say, though I am biased, that having children whilst doing a Phd makes the experience less of an ego trip. I love the phders in my department moaning and stressing about the most meaningless tiny details about them and their Phds. Having a child really opens your eyes up to the reality of phd study - both in terms of how lucky we are and also the relative (in)significance of it all.

I'm not advocating everyone gets pregnant by the way!!! (Though I am here if anyone needs any help!! Hope my wife doesn't see this!!)

Relationship type question...
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I live apart from my partner of 9 years because of my PHd so I can definitely offer some support.

All I can say is lots of communication. Establishing phone call, skype routines is good for the soul. It just means you dont have to worry about the next time you will talk to them when you might feel you need a good chat/cry/moan etc. It gives you something to look forward to when the days are just dragging.

Also dont neglect your own social life away from the phd. Get a (new) hobby and go out with friends. Don't feel guilty about enjoying yourself!

And plan your sex trips!! Very important!

Disagreeing with journal editor comments
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I gave a paper at a conference in Sept and was invited to have my paper published in a respected journal. I received the editor comments recently and there are a number of points that I would consider to be, at best, moving away from the argument of the paper, and at worst, just simple mis-readings.

In this case would you stick to your guns and rewrite the paper as you see it, make a few compromises, or go along with the editor's line of thinking regarding the article?

Has anyone any experience of this?




Trolling on the forum: MODS
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Quote From keenbean:

Well I guess I should comment on this since I'm at the centre of it. I absolutely do not believe that the sort of post CC made was acceptable by anyone's standards. And no, I am not that thick-skinned that things like that bounce off me- I found it incredibly offensive and downright insulting, which only adds to the difficulties I am experiencing already. That vicious type of post will never help anyone to just 'bounce back' and is actually extremely dangerous in respect to people who are already very vulnerable. Luckily I am tough enough to stand up for myself and put up a fight, but not everyone would feel able to. I can appreciate that it is okay to have differences in opinion and share those on the forum, but it is never okay to be so disrespectful and make so many incorrect and vile assumptions about a person. Only very bitter and narrow-minded people resort to this in my view. In fact, if you look at the posts left by CC, none of them are actually remotely relevant to the original post- it is just a vicious and aggressive attack based on absolutely nothing. and the same poster was also abusive to a number of other people last week. If this bullying is allowed to continue then I will not remain a member of this forum on principle, although I would be very sad because I have enjoyed being a part of it for the last couple of years. I agree that some of CC's comments are slightly more lighthearted and vaguely humorous, but this latest lot are a disgrace. I suppose there is some reason behind such appalling behaviour, but being at the brunt of it I can't find it in myself to be very sympathetic, no matter what the cause. Bullying is bullying, and CC has shown himself to have a very ugly personality. Many more people on the forum have thankfully shown themselves to be decent follk who will stand up for something they believe in, which gives me some of my faith back. Thanks to all of those people. I personally will not be returning to this site now until this has been dealt with, and will ask a couple of my trusted forum buddies to email me when that is the case. Best wishes all, and thanks for your support. KB


Decided to make the effort and read this chunk of writing.

Made my Saturday.

Trolling on the forum: MODS
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Quote From olivia:

And yet again, there is all the difference in the world between debate and trolling.
I can ( and do) disagree with friends, family and colleagues from time to time. The disagreement is never stated in personal insult language. A disagreement can be had without invalidating the other person's point of view, let alone any sort of attack upon the person.

Something along the lines of "I can see where you are coming from, but I disagree. My point of view is that--" allows a respectful debate to ensue. Debate, is, after all, an exchange of opinions, and has to allow room for both sides to express what their opinion is in order for there to BE a debate.

Simply trying to shut one side down is not a debate. Any one who thinks that is not well informed about what a debate is, and perhaps is lacking in the linguistic acuity to engage in debate. As well, debating takes confidence--where one is not threatened by the existence of some information or opinion that does not tally with one's own.

Some forums are about debate--or try to be. Try any of the news forums, political forums, etc, that abound on the web. Then again, if you find any true debate, as opposed to flame and bait, lottsa luck!

People on here seem to confuse flame and bait with debate....


As for offering "detached emotional analysis"--one, was it called for or requested by the OP? If not, its out of line. Secondly, do you have professional or other qualifications that permit you to give such analysis? If so, why are you doing it here, instead of in your profession or other work??

If people want to demonstrate their "debating" skills ( or at least try to sort them out from personal insults, flame and bait) why not set up a thread for debating? Topic of your choice. I will be glad to meet you there. :D And please do not be too surprised if I win--it is after all my bread and butter to win arguments. So all of you eager for debate--set up your thread, send me a PM and let's go. Keep debate where it belongs, and keep it separate from flame and bait.

KB I am sorry to see you go, and I do hope the mods sort this before what has been a wonderfully informative and supportive forum collapses from trolls and trolling.


So has KB gone then? Tbf 800 posts says time could be spent more productive elsewhere.

And its an internet forum people. Its not the real world. Get over it. Make sure your phd is a 9 to 5, find a hobby, get laid as often as possible, and watch Seinfeld. Sorted.

Trolling on the forum: MODS
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The way I look at it is this.

A forum is a place for debate, i.e., differing opinions. If someone takes such offence at an anonymous internet post then that says it all to me. Yes PHD land is a selfish place and breeds self-obsession but people need to get over it.

Having such problems with a supervisor, in my opinion, says as much about the student as the supervisor. Its a two way street.

Article Request
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Hi guys

Could anyone do me a massive favour and send me a copy of this article. As usual my institution doesnt have access to this journal.

The direct link to the article is https://mensstudies.metapress.com/content/6x37814n17187p84/resource-secured/?target=fulltext.pdf&sid=2e2h1g45hh4peb55qzgcrzug&sh=www.mensstudies.com

Pm me if you can get it and ill send you my uni address.

Thanks!

Tips for papers reading
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Whatever you do don't print out ever single paper and sit down to read them to see if they might be useful. I once saw a phd student doing that and she was at the end of her thesis. Think of all the paper see must have wasted.

Anyhow yeah I normally go - title, abstract, end of intro para, conclusion, references, first and last line of each para. If it floats my boat then its in.

Dont worry about you have to read everything in case you miss any litlle kernel of inspiration or information. If its important you will come across it again cross referenced somewhere else.

Fight the lit review guilt of not reading everything. We're learning to be efficient researchers and that means identifying the value of something quickly, not dedicating silly hours reading everything.

And definitely write as you read! Great way of assimilating ideas and forming your own view on the literature out there. Plus if you put on the spot for work by your supervisor then you can show him or her all the writing you are doing!!

I cannot believe how rude doctors can be.
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A doctor once laughed at my erect willy. It's a bit of a stand up comedian!