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Thread: To continue Phd or not

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11-Jul-18, 18:32
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@tru, I was really angry with him when I wrote the email to him since he didn't care to think about my safety when he asked me to do data collection. He also has a team to do the data collection and I don't understand why he is not letting me take their help. At that time, I had every intention of leaving. Later, I thought through and felt that I want to complete Phd in this institution and am ready to do it with him as long as he supports me for data collection. But he is not giving me an appointment for discussion and that is making me nervous. At this point, it will be nice if we can talk and I can know from him what he wants exactly. Based on that, I can decide to stick around or move out. My plan B is to hunt for another supervisor here itself. As you pointed out, he is very famous and has many ppl lined up. But he has stopped guiding ppl but expects them to follow an approach which he has in mind. If your way of thinking matches his, you can do it. If not, lots of ppl are struggling now. He neither reviews papers nor reads our progress reports. It is becoming increasingly difficult to work with him now since he is stubborn and expects ppl to fit into his cement mold. I will again remind him and see if I can talk to him.

Thread: To continue Phd or not

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11-Jul-18, 11:15
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I am really getting scared now. My prof replied that he would like to talk sometime. But after that he is not giving me an appointment. He is the kind of person who will not meet students without an appointment. I sent him two reminder mails and after two of them, he said that he is busy with summer school. I went to the lab after a long time to meet someone and he was right there when I expected him to be in the session of the summer school. I don't know what he is driving at. The basic minimum thing I expect from him is that he should talk to me once before I continue with the final decision to see if there is anything else that can possibly be done.

Thread: To continue Phd or not

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03-Jul-18, 17:19
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It is only the first year of my Phd. I wrote to my advisor and he replied that he would like to talk to me some time two days back. However, he hasn't told me when. I spoke to two of my colleagues about my situation. They were quite understanding. I also reminded him twice by email and I still don't have a response from him. When I called up another colleague, she told me that my advisor had told a student that I am leaving. I am confused since from his email, he sounded like he wanted to convince me to stay. The general procedure in the university is that the advisor talks to the student asking for reasons and then try to convince them to stay. If the student doesn't agree, then they take it forward to the administration. Does that mean that he is no longer interested in me???? I am really worried because if he finishes talking to me and things move forward, it would be great. But if he asks me to go, I will really be unhappy that he supported an intern and the annotation team.

Thread: To continue Phd or not

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02-Jul-18, 07:05
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Hi,

My prof put me in a project in which an intern, post doc and annotation team were already working. The intern is a cut throat kind of person who doesn't share information with me. He is independently working on the same project and is not doing much. But he knows how to impress the professor and has a good rapport with him. The post doc is also not a good person and is known to steal credit for other's work and so on. The project involves a lot of data collection. Initially my prof asked me to collect data inside the campus which was ok. The intern did nothing and took the data from me. I didn't want to create an issue since he has got an RA ship in a better place and will move out. He also used to ask me what I did and present a part of it as his own to the prof. In the next stage of data collection, you have to go to roads and collect the data yourself. There is an annotation team who is supposed to do that and it is both time consuming and risky. I assumed that the prof would make them do it. But he asked me to do it. I told him repeatedly that it can't be done by me with reasons. He initially agrees, then asks the annotation team to do. They then tell that the prof asked them not to help me. The intern is staying as far away from this as possible. I once went to collect the data and got stuck in an unsafe area and that traumatized me. I wrote to him that I want to quit Phd since it looks like he doesn't want to support me. Prof is guiding students lesser now and doesn't review papers. He wants the lab to help each other and he will supervise less. I am a shy kind of person who is not good at taking peer's help. Can I survive here or should I go?

Thread: to change my supervisor or not

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04-Dec-17, 03:49
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posted about 9 months ago
Hi everyone,

Thanks for your support. Prof A. finally agreed to take me. I diplomatically explained to Prof. B that I was not the ideal candidate for her field. All the formalities are done and I have started working with Prof A. Am really happy now.

Chinnu

Thread: to change my supervisor or not

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22-Nov-17, 07:16
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posted about 10 months ago
Hi Tru,

I have written to him and he has not yet replied. I am thinking of approaching 2 other profs to see if they will accept me. But Prof B is the dean of the college and I am not sure how they will feel about it.

Thread: to change my supervisor or not

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22-Nov-17, 04:41
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posted about 10 months ago
Hi Tri,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I have decided to ditch Prof B and join Prof A if he accepts me. I don't have any scholarship except the one the college gives me, so it should not be an issue. I have not started work yet, so that again should not be a problem. As you have rightly pointed out, I selected Prof B since her students told me that she defines the problem statement but gives you the freedom to choose the methods. But as soon as I started interacting with her and indicated my interest towards machine learning, she started pushing me away from it. She only wants me to use a tool with old fashioned methods. So it looks like I will get stuck with medical imaging which was my second choice and not have the freedom to select my methods.

Chinnu

Thread: to change my supervisor or not

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19-Nov-17, 19:45
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posted about 10 months ago
I joined the Phd program in the Electronics and Communication department in July 2017. I am interested in Image processing and machine learning including the latest techniques like deep learning. I spoke to three professors and have recorded my observations below:

Prof A.
Works in using deep learning for surveillance and driver assistance related applications
Famous guy with stellar publications. Spoke to him and he told me that he works in a particular manner and he expects students to adhere to it. I spoke to one of his students and he told that he gives the research problem and also the direction to follow. This was the field that interested me the most. But he does not give freedom to students to select their method or way of working.

Prof B.
Works in Medical imaging
Defines the problem statement but allows the students to select their method. Strict with very high expectations. Somewhat crazy, can behave erratically at times.

Prof C.
Works in deep learning techniques for driver assistance applications and computational photography
Brilliant researcher but an absentee prof.

I was confused between Prof's A and B. The work done by Prof A interested me a lot but the fact that he doesn't give freedom put me off. I selected Prof B as my Phd advisor. Incidentally, I have not yet started my work. I spoke to Prof B. about using deep learning for medical imaging but she always puts me off with vague answers. She selected a topic for me which doesn't involve deep learning in the foreseeable future without asking me. I told her once indirectly that I would like to use machine learning techniques for my work and she gave a very vague answer. So I asked her directly and her words were that "You can have it as an appetizer but it will involve using conventional techniques." So, I decided to dig into the work that has already been done and found that the deep learning aspect has already been implemented by a Masters student who has passed out. She has given an almost similar project to another student who indicated to her that people are taking machine learning based approaches to solve the problem. The prof told her not to look at those approaches.This led me to the conclusion that she is not really interested in letting me do work with any machine learning techniques. Furthermore, she tried to tempt me saying that she is expecting funds for another project and she will make me a manager for it and pay me for it. My concern is that should this happen, it will take away time from research and will greatly slow down my Phd. I am not liking the way she is not willing to give me the kind of work that I want and her wanting to exploit my industry experience for other things which will not help me. But I am not sure if he will reconsider me since he is basically a tough guy. I am extremely confused and don't know what to do. Please advise me.
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