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Pay back parents' funding?
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Hmm, my first thoughts are that I'd never have taken on a PhD project without funding in place to begin with. You need £50,000 plus bare minimum including fees and in London, you may as well add on another £3,000 minimum a year living expenses. Parents even thinking of funding that I honestly believe is unreasonable. But I take your point that your brother had been given money, so your parents thought it was unfair if his sister didn't benefit also. Also, I was Science and Engineering where funding for various projects seems easier to come by.

Whilst normally I would say this is an issue between your brother and your parents, they do have a right to know. On face value, he's apparently p*ssed their money up the proverbial wall (though I have a further thought - see later). To follow up on your above post, wait to see what your mother says in a few days and if he hasn't told her, I'm afraid I'd spill the beans. However, Christmas is coming and the last thing you want in a family row over this period.

I'd wait until New Year, then step back to allow him and your parents to sort out the mess

One thought niggling me though is given the difficulties many encounter during PhD (workload, etc.) is there may be depression or health issues he's not being open about. He may have suspended for such reasons, but chosen to remain private about them. I've seen someone fade out of a PhD in the way you describe, in that they attended less and less, downgraded to MPhil then finally left altogether. Your brother may have tried harder than you think trying to stick it out, his sixth year full time suggesting this. The fact your brother past year four without the PhD being terminated suggests he's had previous suspensions.

That said, I hope he doesn't use health issues, etc. as an excuse when questions are finally asked of him.

Ian

i want to do Phd
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Quote From rajeshpavadi:
hi , can you help me as i did pg in uk from Leicester university and then iam looking for phd do i eligible for phd with pg degree and also which country is best for related to aeronautics in phd .hope i need some suggestions.

thank you

rajesh


I can't give you specific advice. However, take a read of my blog (first link) for a general background on what a PhD is.

I put this together originally for students at my old PhD Uni., however, others have found it useful since.
If you want a tongue in cheek view, have a look at this. :-)
Ian

Dr Marasp!
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Quote From marasp:
Quick word to say I have made it. I will be awarded the PhD with minor corrections!


Glad to hear lass, congratulations, well done and Merry Christmas!!!

Ian

Anyone with two PhDs?
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Two Phds???? That's what i call hiding from the real world - why bother?!


Some days hiding from the real world seems like a rational, sane proposition. I call them weekdays. :-)

Ian

boycotting exploitative posts...
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Looks like they've 'accidentally' left about £10,000 off the starting salary.

Appalling. Twitter campaigns have sometimes got things retracted (e.g. extended unpaid 'research internships' that were equivalent in workload to RA posts) but I don't know about underfunded salaried positions.

I'd recommend boycotting such posts but there will always be someone desperate enough for that kind of role that they will get applications.


That actually describes my 1st post-doc position - although an enjoyable period, it was definitely underpaid. However, as I was still writing up my PhD, the money to pay the bills was more important.

Financial considerations will compel many recent graduates to consider such positions.

Ian

No Job 5 months after graduating.
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Academia is taking a scary turn over there (there were 25 more global universities going in over the next few years in the country I was in) and internationally (saw 950 PhD scholarships offered at Oxford the other day but no post-doc funding). I'd like to see a better post-phd path offered by universities/governments that encourages people to step outside the departments where they started but still get some guidance.Hope this helps.


950 PhD Studentships with no post-doc route?

That shows for sure that PhD Studentships are a cheap labour resource for academia and sponsoring industries.

Ian

Have fallen sick, need to interrupt PhD.
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The PhD is not worth your health. The further you push into the PhD, the more stressful it will become and the greater effect it will have on your health.

You need to apply for a suspension immediately and tell your supervisors. As TreeofLife says, they can't kick you out because of illness.

Check your University guidelines or other terms and conditions as to the withdrawal of sponsorship. Even if the sponsorship can be pulled, I would still put your health first. You can always apply for other PhDs.

Ian

Thinking of leaving before I'm in too deep
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Quote From PhDefault:
I almost thought you might be at the same department where I did my PhD when I started reading your post, but your field is totally different.

I had the same issue. But decided to stay. I hated the people I had to work around, and got very depressed - mood rollercoasters (swing would be took soft a word), stopped eating etc but did finish in 3 years, which is faster than most people in the dept that are still there. But I am now unemployed. I have been for 11 months and only found out at the 9 month mark that my ex-supervisor was giving me crappy references to go with my job applications. So that's basically a whole year down the toilet.

Also I think you're being smart by thinking ahead with the uncertainty with jobs available after a phd. I am looking at retraining now. I'm not cut out for academia. It's alot to do with who you know, and my ex-supervisor hates me lol...so I'm re-evaluating my options. Being around a negative environment has a huge impact on you too.

Sometimes you just know when something isn't right for you, and it sounds like you already know. If you can find another similar university/department but with nicer people, you'll be much happier.



You could ask what you have done wrong to justify his views about you in these references. If he thought badly of you, why has he even agreed to give a reference?

Can you show that the comments made by your ex-supervisor are without foundation, untruthful or inaccurate? You may have a case against him for defamation or negligence depending upon what has been said (if you can access this information).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3065319.stm

Ian

Experiences of actually studying your PhD?
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As regards structure, it's what you make it under the guidance of your supervisors. Yes, structure will be a little vague at times as we are talking academia, but the PhD will in the end be what you make of it.

I think almost every PhD student feels the sense of a lack of direction at times or the goal posts being changed because a supervisor (or sponsor) has a bright idea (though generally he was a good supervisor). What I recommend is something similar to my approach. I knew what kind of basic data my supervisors were after, so I designed my own experimental programme to obtain that data. The structure proved quite successful and I was able later to concentrate further test runs on 'boundary conditions' between different data sets.

When my primary supervisor came in with the inevitable bright idea, I was able to roughly accommodate that into the structure and this gave me extra quality data I included in my thesis. One or two of his less feasible ideas I managed to leave out on the basis I was aiming to submit the thesis by a given date, though his reasoning for trying some of these extra experiments was based on an excellent understand of his subject area.

Ian

Experiences of actually studying your PhD?
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Ganesha, thankyou very much: find a decent supervisor [good relationship and good support], treat it like a job [9-5 etc, I can do that]. Very much appreciated.

Ian, I've seen that game before, my GF sent it too me some time ago. Made me facedesk then, makes me facedesk now. But thanks, good for a laugh.

And thanks for the blog, it was extremely informative.

I guess my issue is not knowing right now whether its the right thing for me. I enjoy scientific research in my field, but a 3 year commitment is alot to ask. I think I could handle it, but right now I'm still not sure what is actually involved, even with your blog. I can handle just doing research, writing and planning it all for a few years, but it seems like a huge obstacle without clear structure.

How did you know it was the right thing to do?


Whilst doing Masters, I found I enjoyed doing and finding out new things. The idea of PhD popped into my head then for the simple reason it would offer me the chance to do exactly that, however, I knew I needed a break to think and recuperate from a fairly intensive Masters before I started. That break became a five year one in the real world in part due to a couple of failed PhD applications and in part because I needed to be ready. But I knew I was going to do one.

What attracted me finally was the chance to do something innovative, to contribute something new to the field I chose and to do some serious science. The opportunity to play with some serious kit I would not otherwise ever have the chance to use was a big plus too. These things I got to do and my PhD experience was generally positive. In other words, I wanted to do a PhD for the right reasons.

(Continued...)

Ian

Experiences of actually studying your PhD?
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Solo,

I got asked the questions you have by a number of interested people one I finished. My experiences resulted in this blog. Take a read (first link) as it tries to answer the most frequent questions I was asked.

If you want a smile, you might want to click on the link for the "PhD Game" (second link). :-)

Ian



Failed the Upgrade and Stuck on the MPhil - What to do?
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PenPen,

I checked my former Uni. regulations and there is no mention of this upgrade from MPhil to PhD at final viva, either as they stood then or as they are now. So it must only happen in very rare, exceptional circumstances as with the teaching company candidate I mentioned.

You're probably right to think about working for a few years before coming back and attempting PhD again. I needed a break after Masters and didn't return for another 5 years. You could look for work in the real world in an area relevant to what you might want to do.

But as said above use MPhil as a stepping stone, learning from your mistakes if / when you finally do PhD.

Ian

Failed the Upgrade and Stuck on the MPhil - What to do?
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Just my penny's worth here. At my old Uni., if you produced a very high quality MPhil dissertation that showed sufficient originality and contribution to the studied field then you could be upgraded to PhD at final viva.

I heard of one person on a teaching company scheme who got his PhD via this route.

Ian

Don't know what to do,..
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I have been working on PhD for 3 years and my funding is now coming to and end. I got one article published not directly related to the task of the work. I have not succeeded with the final task of the work that I am doing. My work being purely experimental in field of physics. My mother just died and I got word that my second paper was rejected after second review since it did not contribute anything to the existing field. I have to write my dissertation. I don't know what to do,... I am very depressed.


I assume you've applied for a PhD suspension, even if only to give yourself time to grieve. See your GP also to seek help for your depression. If possible, take a holiday.

Quite frankly, I would not regard the PhD as important right now. You, your health and wellbeing are what matters.

Your supervisors should understand how you feel.

Ian

Just another PhD student thinking about quitting
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Quote From uranio:
Yeah. Nothing new nor shocking.

I just finished my second year and I had this PhD evaluation with someone external to my university.

I was really happy I managed to get this super professor to come here to evaluate my work. He's one of the most important researchers in my field.

He was really nice, he gave me some great suggestions to both improve my work and my possibility of getting a good position in the future. He also accepted to come again for my eventual PhD defense.

I really expected some of the toughest things he told me. According to him, I should do some major changes to my approach to make it really valuable.

I'm happy with me, with my work, with my presentation skills so, what's the problem?

I really think my supervisors are crap, totally disconnected from the research reality. I feel they waste my time with outdated and unimportant shit. It's not the first time I think this, but let's say, I kind of confirmed it. I know I could've done a thousand times better.

Conclusion: I just want to quit and find a 9-5 job outside academy.


With a year to go, I would see it through to show you have gained something from your time. To come away with nothing now would be the worst outcome, including from a job hunting point of view.

Take the criticisms from the external to improve and strengthen your work. It appears he knows what he is doing even if your supervisors don't. It may avoid major corrections post-viva as it appears someone has given you some solid advice.

You want a bog-standard 9-5 job? The grass is green on the other side of the fence if things aren't 100% I guess. I'm 9-5 now and can safely say job satisfaction was better back during PhD and (1st) post-doc - it's same old, same old versus past variety put bluntly.

Ian