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Another phrase for 'in relation to'

Of course it depends on the sentence itself, but I always seem to use:

- taking this into consideration
- thus
- ergo
- Consequently
- Following on from
- Building upon
- Moving away from
- In response to

After a R&R of thesis an R&R article for publication

Rejection is definitely the norm.

This is my take on journals, however, during the PHD. I have been shrewd/cynical [delete where appropriate] in submitting adapted versions of each chapter of my thesis (I'm in the humanities) to the top publications in my area. I've done this basically to get feedback on my writing and work! So far two have been published and the the 3rd was rejected but with a very nice referees report that underlined the contribution I make to the field but with the point that it needs structural work done to the paper/chapter (which is very true).

This is a good way to go about it I think.

Also always aim for the top journal first and then go down the list. I've had people being very nice to me so I publish in their not so great journal.

negative feedback

As my Phd has gone on (I'm in my last 6 months now) I have gotten less and less positive feedback from my sup. I have to admit I am a lover of the tick or "good", "very good", "excellent", "very well put" etc on the margins of my work but I just don't get them anymore. On the other side of the coin the most negative feedback I ever get is "have a look at pages 44-49 again". That's about it. I'm not neglected by any means but I would love my sup to get the red pen out and go to town on my writing. It just isn't going to happen. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Only time will tell.

But I do like to call a spade a spade and if it looks like a turd, smells like a turd and winks up at you like a turd, then it is probably not a perfect piece of writing.


Well some people swear by Tesco's but I prefer Sainsburys. Especially if you get in there before 9.

You wanna know what I think...

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The only comment I want to make is that following this youtube link and a few other youtube links here in the past while, Phders have xxxx taste in music!

Edited by PostGrad Forum team - language, Larry!

Conference Paper

I am in my 3rd year now and my first conference appearance was in my first year. The initial nerves give way to complete cynicism(!!)

Here are my tips:

- Choose your conferences carefully. Make sure there will be people there related to the field that might be interested.
- Keep an eye out for possible publication opportunities linked to the conference. To be of any value, a publication would need to be in an edition of a journal that is double blind peer reviewed. "Conference proceedings" are not much kop really.
- Present what you have already written at the conference. Don't be writing something fresh. It's really not worth the effort. Luckily I've been able to present work from each chapter of my thesis at various conferences and the greatest benefit has been having to distill my argument (or the key part of it) from a 20000 chapter to a 2500 word paper. It really forces you to focus on what you want to say and will aid your re-drafting of your chapter.
- Don't expect too much from conferences. How many times have you sat down and switched off after 2 mins? Exactly. People rarely listen. You will get good eye focus until about 7 mins and then the 7 minute itch kicks in and you might as well be talking to the wall.
- Hope that you get a slot in the morning preferably on the first day. People are full of energy and raring to go. From after lunch on the first day its down hill from there.
- Use slides but don't over use them. Use them for short sharp definitions of key concepts and nothing more. Put further reading suggestions and put your email address too just in case.
- Don't go into detail. You are presenting your research and 90% of the attendees will not be overly familiar with the area never mind the argument or the concepts.
- Relax. At the end of the day nobody will remember your "performance" as such. You prob won't get any decent feedback.
- Don't fret about questions. It's unlikely anyone will have listened enough. Generally people ask questions so they can talk about themselves and their research. Smile and nod.
- Go to the dinner. You might get lucky.

How do I deal with this?

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I think what they are suggesting is that writing is an ongoing process and ultimately the redrafting element is more our responsibility than theirs. I'm in the humanities and I see my sup as my copy editor - there to check typos and general flow. He rarely advises me on specifics in terms of content or argument, usually it is more advice on how what I've written could be pulled apart at the viva.

Are you sending them 1st drafts of work done? Are they picking up easy errors or silly mistakes? Perhaps they are trying to point out that redrafting is a crucial part of the process. I always think that a piece is never finished (which is my major flaw tbh) and could rewrite and rewrite to my heart's content. No better feeling for me than printing out a piece of work and getting the red pen out ready to pull the work apart.

If you're struggling with this then my advice would be to write a substantial (but not too big) section. Give yourself some time any from it and do something else. Then later that day or the next day, print it out and get the red pen out. Do you see any gaps? Are any weak parts? Is EVERY paragraph contributing to your argument? Does EVERY paragraph have a strong opening sentence that sets up the paragraph? Does EVERY paragraph have a strong finishing sentence that sums up your point? Do these paragraphs flow? If not - rewrite. Then rewrite some more. Personally I never give my sup anything to read before I've rewritten it at least 3 times. People give me nice comments on my writing but I'm no genius - I'm just hyper-critical of my own work.

Hope this helps.

Everything crossed for Sneaks

Another success! Great news!

Looking forward to the write-up of the experience!!!

mock viva

There have been a few discussions giving different views about it on here.

I was in the mock viva boat. I thought it would be a good idea to experience the pressures of the day and be able to critique my performance.

But now as I approach my submission, I'd rather sit down with my sup (and possible another member of staff) to talk through potential questions and issues. I do think of it as something to be navigated in my overall 30 year career rather than an all encompassing eternal judgement of the true academic value of this unique contribution to the world of research. At the end of the day a PhD is merely a 3 year apprenticeship and if an academic (or 2) really has the time (or interest) to make sure a Viva is a living hell for me then it doesn't say to much for their professionalism (imo).

Submission after R&R- holiday?

Quote From lindalou83:

Agreed, come on LarryDavid, is there any need for that? I agree with the others, if you don't like reading the threads, then don't! The forum is here for support from other postgrads, everyone is different and deals with it in a different way. The forum is here for support, not belittling others.

Lets not all take ourselves so seriously.


Submission after R&R- holiday?

Quote From hazyjane:

If I recall correctly you still have 5 months to finish this. And most of the revisions are to do with reducing the length of the thesis and tightening it up, rather than having to carry out more work.

Would it be such a bad idea to take a week or two's holiday now? You sound pretty jaded and worn down by the process. Maybe a break would help you return to it with more enthusiasm.

*holds head in hands*

I think I speak for us all when I say its imperative that Pineapple gets this finished as soon as possible. It is simply the fact of following the basic guidelines set by her uni and sitting down and doing it (says the guy on the forum who should be redrafting himself!)

Submission after R&R- holiday?

Quote From beth12:

@larrydavid - very funny! @Pineapple29 - we are all working hard, and feel like it will never end. Do you really want this PhD because you always sound so negative about the work that you are required to do? Every university has rules about the word limit which we have to respect - and it seems that you submitted knowing you were way above the maximum. Right now, its best to accept what you need to do, and simply, just do it. Its a PhD - its not supposed to be painful or torture and it is heartbreaking in some countries where I have been where there are young people desperate for such chances. Remember this PhD is your privilege - make the most of it.

Beth where have you been all my life? What you doing Friday at 8pm?

Submission after R&R- holiday?

And the procrastination of the year award for her unrivalled ability to start daily threads directly related to her unique R&R situation goes to...

Post viva- just over six months left to complete corrections

These thesis corrections appear to be a torturous process alright.

Knowing when to move on

Quote From Batfink27:

Sometimes I find it hard to move on from one part of my work when I'm kind of dreading the next thing. Is there an element of that involved too? It can be comforting to keep working on one area, even when actually it's mostly about avoiding working on another area. I find that if I acknowledge this is happening, I can form a strategy to move on past it - identifying what is the sticking point and how to deal with that. That may not be what's going on with you, of course, but I think it's worth considering.

I think you're on to something with that in general terms. For me, though, the next chapter of the thesis is an expanded/improved version of my MA dissertation; so nothing too taxing (or at least not compare to the final chapter! I just think I've enjoy this stage of the 3 year journey and have produced a piece of work that is actually "original" (sarcastic quotation marks!) and which does add something to the research field I'm in. I do think sometimes though you can coast in a certain period and need a jolt to get you looking to the future and moving on.