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Thread: Studying PhD in the UK as a EU student?

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12-Jul-18, 19:03
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No, a postgraduate doctoral loan of 8.3K a year over 3 years would not cover tuition fees and living costs, and that was not the intention of the loan. It's there to help, not to cover all costs.

Although the loan is not available to anyone receiving any form of RC funding, it does not prevent loanees applying for other forms of funding (university scholarships, charitable trusts etc).

The main funding for UK PhD students comes from the UKRC either in the form of funded projects (more in the 'hard' sciences'), or through the various different RCs with studentships. I think in your friend's case, it'd be the AHRC. Look up their website. There are also university scholarships and charities. Take a look at find a findaphd.com, or check on the websites of individual universities for more detail.

Paid teaching duties are only usually available to second year PhD students, although there is nothing to stop your friend doing other forms of paid part-time work to get by.

Hope this helps.

Thread: “you'll be well looked after there”

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04-Jul-18, 20:35
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Many thanks to you all, Tudor_Queen, laebae and profkmorrell.
I think I am just getting all too nervous maybe because I have lived the recent year in my own country (China) where I sometimes have to read between lines or else I will find myself in trouble. I got a bit of reverse cultural shock on that when I came back from the UK to China. And now seems it's time to adjust myself to the UK style once again.


This makes sense! I met some Chinese and Korean students this Summer, and they said that one thing that they have had to adapt to in the UK/US is that we are more direct - less reading between the lines. It was funny as I said I probably wouldn't do well in China - I take people very literally and never think about more subtle meanings till weeks later (and usually when I realise through something that happened afterwards!)

Cultural differences are so interesting : -)


First time that I've seen UK academics described as 'direct'. Whenever I hear my argument being described as 'interesting' or 'good, but...', I immediately think of a total rewrite....

Thread: “you'll be well looked after there”

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04-Jul-18, 14:03
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Quote From samcassel:
Many thanks to you all, Tudor_Queen, laebae and profkmorrell.
I think I am just getting all too nervous maybe because I have lived the recent year in my own country (China) where I sometimes have to read between lines or else I will find myself in trouble. I got a bit of reverse cultural shock on that when I came back from the UK to China. And now seems it's time to adjust myself to the UK style once again.


Now it becomes a little clearer, especially if the OP is female...'looked after' when translated into Chinese (zhào gù 照顧) can have certain sexual connotations. Being 'looked after', either voluntarily or being coerced, can mean being in a relationships with someone in a position of authority for possible academic/financial/career advantages in return for sexual favours. If it's voluntary, it is a form of corruption and an abuse of power. If it is coerced, it becomes sexual harassment/rape.

I can see why the OP had concerns with the wordings.

Thread: PhD Government Loan

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26-Jun-18, 23:09
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Chaotic is correct - you're not eligible if you already have RC funding, not sure about other funding. But if you're fully funded you wouldn't need it anyway, so not sure why you would want to take it?


Having been in business for over 20 years, I guess I am just used to having those little luxuries in life...so why not take the money if it's on offer?


I dunno, cuz it's a loan not a gift and you gotta pay it back with interest at some point?


Well, that really depends, doesn't it? If the PhD proves useful to my future career, then it'd be a pleasure to pay it back, with interest. If, however, it does little to help my gaining useful employment in academia (what else is a PhD in the social sciences good for?), which is the far more likely scenario according to people wiser than I, then it's unlikely I would have to pay back any of the loan at my age. Therefore, the loan is essential a 'free gift' for all intents and purposes.

This may beg the further question as to why I would want to 'waste' 3-4 years studying for a PhD if it is unlikely to help me in a late change of career direction, the answer is really quite simple. It is a quest for knowledge in an attempt to satisfy intellectual curiosity. After all, isn't that what education in general, and research in particular, are suppose to be about?

Thread: Will I be too old to apply for Ph.D. at the age of 30

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26-Jun-18, 20:46
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I'm 53 and a PhD student. You're never too old.


I trump that by 2 years, and I will be starting my PhD in October...:)

Thread: PhD Government Loan

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22-Jun-18, 01:59
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Chaotic is correct - you're not eligible if you already have RC funding, not sure about other funding. But if you're fully funded you wouldn't need it anyway, so not sure why you would want to take it?


Having been in business for over 20 years, I guess I am just used to having those little luxuries in life...so why not take the money if it's on offer?

Thread: PhD funding Reserve list

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20-Jun-18, 01:29
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Hey guys, I just found out that I was lucky enough to get the funding! Hope you have the same stroke of luck :)


Congratulations! I have given up on my ESRC application, withdrawn my acceptance of the offer of a place for the PhD, and have applied to another university that still had some (both fully and partly-funded) scholarships available.

Thread: PhD Government Loan

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20-Jun-18, 01:10
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Hi guys,

I recently got awarded funding, somewhat unexpectedly but delightfully. I also understand that the government has a new scheme which allows PhD students to take out a Doctoral loan
of up to 25k. (https://www.gov.uk/doctoral-loan/what-you-get). I think my stipend should be plenty and I have enough student debt already so I am erring towards not taking out this loan but I was just curious to have if anybody was thinking about taking it.


From what I understand of your position from your other posts, you are not eligible for the government PhD loan, as anyone receiving RC funding in any shape or form is not eligible.

I am not quite sure, but it seems likely from the SFC website that those on university scholarships (as opposed to RC funding) or other financial support from a 'non-public' source are eligible. I am waiting on the decisions of my university scholarship applications, and I have also applied for the PhD loan, intending to take both if my scholarship applications are successful.

Thread: Try for PhD or a Second MS

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14-Jun-18, 21:59
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Ok, if you read from start, 69% was from the online tool (gradehub), 65% percent is what was told to me from Edinburgh after I asked them to clarify my overall percentage specifically regarding the two modules that only have a pass.



If Edinburgh had 'clarified' that your overall marks is 65%, how come they gave you a Pass for your Master's?Will you be returning your parchment for them send you a new one?


Lastly, why would you need gradehub to work out your overall average when Edinburgh would have supplied you with a full transcript, based on which you can easily work your average using any spreadsheet, especially when 'Big Data' is your field?

So long and thanks for all the fish!

Thread: Try for PhD or a Second MS

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14-Jun-18, 17:29
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Hi Guys,

So long story short,
Edinburgh confirmed that my avg is 65 which is calculated excluding these two modules. Imperial admissions said no its 54, so now they are discussing internally.

I would not have followed up with my university if it wasn't for the supervisor I was in contact with @ Imperial.
He basically forced me to investigate this issue as he wanted me as his student (@TreeOfLife, he is btw a from MIT, and according to him my research statement was way better than the "perfect-scored" students he interviewed... be a little less judgemental in your comments from now on. ;-) )

Anyways, I got into the Technical University of Munich, which is equally better.

As an advice, i should probably post this somewhere for MS students. Check the modules you take and make sure they are "graded", if you are planning for a Ph.D

Thanks everyone..
case closed :D


As Alice might say, curiouser and curiouser.

First it was 69% not including the '0%' modules, not it is 65. Edinburgh, who first gave you a 'Pass', has now changed your grade to a Merit, with Imperial Admission insisting that you still have a Pass, and they are discussing this internally. I would like to know how Imperial can affect grades given out by Edinburgh. Either you have a Merit, or a Pass. It is Edinburgh's decision. Imperial has no say in this.

Furthermore, Your proposal is better than a 'perfect-scored' student, according to an Imperial academic, and he wants you to be his student so much that he is challenging Admission.

Finally, Technical University of Munich is 'equally better'.

Nice trolling!

Thread: Try for PhD or a Second MS

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13-Jun-18, 16:47
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The OP say that he passed these 2 modules of 20 credits each. Even if they were re-sits/re-submissions, they would still be capped at 50%, and not 0%. I really cannot see a situation where 40 credits out of 180 is treated as 0% as a matter of course, yet that 0% is still counted towards an average based on 180 credits.

I'd like to know which uni this is, and I can go and check on their rules, purely to satisfy my personal curiosity.

Thread: Try for PhD or a Second MS

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10-Jun-18, 02:01
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Yes that's what I suspected. So the feedback you got about having low grades is correct then,
I think this is the equivalent of a 2:2 or grade average 50 to 59%.
I think merit is 60 to 69 and a distinction is above 70 but I might be wrong,

Either way this is probably why you are getting rejections. I dont think it has anything to do with individual module weightings.
Applying to very popular places like Imperial and Warwick is going to be tough as you'll be facing a throng of people with distinctions.


But surely if the OP had stated his case correctly, then the two modules where he passed, but scored 0 % somehow, contributed to his final grades, caused his low average.

This is the bit I don't get:

"After digging details ( for which I am still in contact with Uni of Edinburgh) . I found out that 2 of the modules I took (research proposal, research review) have only PASS or FAIL (no percentage). and somehow even though I have passed both modules, my overall percentage being calculated is taking into account 0% for both of them. these were 20 credit modules so 40 credits out of 180.

taking 0% of these two modules in my overall percentage is bringing it down to 54%.. I of course had no idea that if I take such modules 0% will be counted towards my overall grade."

If I got this correctly, he is saying that he got an average of 69% in 140 credits, and the 40 credits at 0% (both modules he passed without being given a percentage mark) dragged the 180 credits overall average to 54%. How can 40 credits out of 180 credits be classed as 0%, yet still are used in the calculations for the final average?

OP, please clarify.

Thread: PhD loans - what do you all think?

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20-May-18, 15:12
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TQ, I haven't worded my post well to be fair.
I didn't mean to talk about personal failure to secure a funded position. I was talking in the context of a post which didn't have funding attached to it in the first place hence the need for a loan.
I think I am happy to stand by that comment but I made a dog's breakfast of my original post.


Even then, you are confused between the interested parties in charge of allocating research funds and 'society' in general. Or is it your assertion that all government agencies and quangos always reflect the interest and will of 'society'?

Thread: PhD loans - what do you all think?

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19-May-18, 14:25
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It's sending a strong message that your research is not valued enough by our society to bother funding.
It's not a great place to start a PhD from.


LOL. If you say so.

Thread: PhD loans - what do you all think?

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18-May-18, 22:00
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Honestly, if you can't get full funding for your PhD you really need to take a step back and listen to the message the system is telling you. I would personally never take out a loan or self fund.


Yes, I think this is the main point.


Why?
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